Lineup and/or rotation changes for Regional play....

[Coach34]

When I think of Armstrong, I don't think of an SEC hitter nor a DH.

summed up perfectly

[Homedawg]

Agreed.

[Original48]

And to add to that..when I think DH, I don't think 9th in the batting order.

[CadaverDawg]

Not trying to get involved in this debate, but Slauter is 10 times the hitter Armstrong is right now. Slauter gives us an experienced SEC hitter that knows what it means to work a count, draw a walk, spoil pitches, and typically he has a great plate approach.

granted, he has struggled as of late, but no worse than Armstrong. Plus, Slauter is a leader and I like him in big situations. Especially in post season play where he has experience.

Far more to the Slauter/Armstrong debate than batting average.

I think everyone is so determined to disagree with Will, that they are not thinking logically. Would you really rather have Armstrong batting than Slauter in the postseason?

[engie]

Do not like Armstrong doing anything but pinch running at this point. Agreed.

That said, I'm keeping Henderson in the game right now. He seems to be warming up with the weather...

[CadaverDawg]

Do not like Armstrong doing anything but pinch running at this point. Agreed.

That said, I'm keeping Henderson in the game right now. He seems to be warming up with the weather...

Yep. For whatever reason, this is Henderson's favorite time of year. I'm keeping him in there, at least until he goes cold....because he is very streaky

[engie]

Yep. For whatever reason, this is Henderson's favorite time of year. I'm keeping him in there, at least until he goes cold....because he is very streaky

Him getting going will magnify Frasier getting going... Would love for Frasier and Detz to start getting some consistent RBI opportunities...

[Homedawg]

Not trying to get involved in this debate, but Slauter is 10 times the hitter Armstrong is right now. Slauter gives us an experienced SEC hitter that knows what it means to work a count, draw a walk, spoil pitches, and typically he has a great plate approach.

granted, he has struggled as of late, but no worse than Armstrong. Plus, Slauter is a leader and I like him in big situations. Especially in post season play where he has experience.

Far more to the Slauter/Armstrong debate than batting average.

I think everyone is so determined to disagree with Will, that they are not thinking logically. Would you really rather have Armstrong batting than Slauter in the postseason?

I don't know who this was intended for. But I never ever said I wanted armstrong. I said I didn't want slaughter, for multiple reasons. One, he's not a good hitter. Two, I dont like using my other catcher to start as dh because it prevents you from making moves later in the game without running a risk of having a pitcher hit. My vote is porter. Or go w frost. Just not those 2.

[CadaverDawg]

Him getting going will magnify Frasier getting going... Would love for Frasier and Detz to start getting some consistent RBI opportunities...

Yea me too. If we can keep getting decent performance from the bottom of the lineup AND we can get Renfroe back to hitting...we will be a very tough out in the post season. Of course, our starting pitching will play a role as well, but to be honest with you, I think we have struggled with starting pitching so much this year that it doesn't really affect us anymore as a team. Our relievers are used to going longer distances, and it seems to have made them better as we've gotten later in the season. So the pitching doesn't really worry me that much.

[CadaverDawg]

I don't know who this was intended for. But I never ever said I wanted armstrong. I said I didn't want slaughter, for multiple reasons. One, he's not a good hitter. Two, I dont like using my other catcher to start as dh because it prevents you from making moves later in the game without running a risk of having a pitcher hit. My vote is porter. Or go w frost. Just not those 2.

It was meant for you, but I'm not trying to be argumentative, just discussing.

And I think it is wrong to make a blanket statement like "Slauter is not a good hitter". You are basing that on his average, and there is far more to hitting than your batting average. I just disagree that he is a bad hitter. He gets on base....that's a good hitter to me.

[Homedawg]

It was meant for you, but I'm not trying to be argumentative, just discussing.

And I think it is wrong to make a blanket statement like "Slauter is not a good hitter". You are basing that on his average, and there is far more to hitting than your batting average. I just disagree that he is a bad hitter. He gets on base....that's a good hitter to me.

Discussion is good, thats fine. First, make sure you understand this wasn't a slaughter vs armstrong discussion. Not on my end. I don't like Armstrong in the lineup and have said it multiple times. As for a good hitter, I'm aware there is more than avg. however, contrary to some belief, avg is a viable stat. In a year and a half, I'm taking out injury, slaughter is a .235 hitter. That length of time helps eliminate luck. Hes been consitent forthat time. Sorry, that's not a good hitter, IMO. I'm not saying he should never be on the field- just not as a dh.
ETA, if and I repeat if he hit for power, I'd have different thoughts. But he doesn't.

[CadaverDawg]

Discussion is good, thats fine. First, make sure you understand this wasn't a slaughter vs armstrong discussion. Not on my end. I don't like Armstrong in the lineup and have said it multiple times. As for a good hitter, I'm aware there is more than avg. however, contrary to some belief, avg is a viable stat. In a year and a half, I'm taking out injury, slaughter is a .235 hitter. That length of time helps eliminate luck. Hes been consitent forthat time. Sorry, that's not a good hitter, IMO. I'm not saying he should never be on the field- just not as a dh.
ETA, if and I repeat if he hit for power, I'd have different thoughts. But he doesn't.

Again, you're basing how good he is off of his batting average. And I never said average wasn't a viable stat, but if you agree there is more to a good hitter than batting average, why are you ignoring the other stats that you say are important?

Did you know that Porter has 6 career HR and Slauter has 4? And they have exactly the same number of doubles in their careers, but Slauter has 2 triples to Porter's 0. So the "power" argument doesn't really work either.

Porter has about a .20 better batting average, but Slauter has a better OBP%.

So basically what I'm saying is...I would probably prefer Porter as well, but to say Slauter is a "bad hitter" but be an advocate for Porter doesn't really make sense bc Slauter's numbers are as good or better for the most part. So if we're going to have to have a RH DH for Cohen, it makes a ton of sense to go with Slauter.

But I can agree to disagree...and I think we would both rather see Porter at DH right now, or even Frost, than Armstrong.

[Homedawg]

Again, you're basing how good he is off of his batting average. And I never said average wasn't a viable stat, but if you agree there is more to a good hitter than batting average, why are you ignoring the other stats that you say are important?

Did you know that Porter has 6 career HR and Slauter has 4? And they have exactly the same number of doubles in their careers, but Slauter has 2 triples to Porter's 0. So the "power" argument doesn't really work either.

Porter has about a .20 better batting average, but Slauter has a better OBP%.

So basically what I'm saying is...I would probably prefer Porter as well, but to say Slauter is a "bad hitter" but be an advocate for Porter doesn't really make sense bc Slauter's numbers are as good or better for the most part. So if we're going to have to have a RH DH for Cohen, it makes a ton of sense to go with Slauter.

But I can agree to disagree...and I think we would both rather see Porter at DH right now, or even Frost, than Armstrong.

I admit that this year it's close and they have equal Ab's. But last year porter played everyday and was more productive and proved he could do it. I know this year isnt last year but he hasn't had the opportunity to repeat his succes. Slaughter, while he has been injuried and has been limited as well, he's numbers are around here they were last year. Also, the second part of my reasoning is just as important. What happens if ammo goes down with foul tip off his finger. Well guess what, we have a pitcher hitting in his spot the rest of the game or use a pinch hitter ever time. And less flexibility to run or pinch hit for either of them because you don't have a catcher. I'm sure renfroe could go in an emergency but that's not what anyone wants for extended innings. Your "emergency" catcher and lose your right fielder who is a plus defender.

[Homedawg]

Also, I never said he was a bad hitter, just not a good one. Just for clarification.

[Will James]

Also, I never said he was a bad hitter, just not a good one. Just for clarification.

Hes not a cleanup hitter but if healthy he's a starter. Gimme Slauter at C Porter DH and Ammo as a switch hitting PH off the bench.

[Homedawg]

Hes not a cleanup hitter but if healthy he's a starter. Gimme Slauter at C Porter DH and Ammo as a switch hitting PH off the bench.

I don't have a problem w this. But right now I like ammo behing the plate. He has a much better arm and his offensive numbers are better against better pitching.