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    Lineup and/or rotation changes for Regional play....

    I am not expecting us to change anything in terms of pitching rotation and/or batting order, but I wanted to see if anyone else thought we might see some changes.

    Also, if you could change anything going into Regional play, what would it be?

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    less Armstrong. everything else looks good.

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    I actually think I would leave our rotation the same, mainly because that would put Pollo going against the #4 seed, and then Graveman and Lindgren going against our tougher opponents. In my opinion our rotation is perfect for how I'd like our pitching matchups to be in a Regional.

    As for the lineup...obviously you probably don't mess with something that has been working, but I would want to see a lot more of Frost and Porter, and a lot less of Armstrong. Who do we DH against a left handed pitcher?? I think Cohen needs to drop the matchup thing for our DH if our only RH option is Armstrong, and go with Frost or Porter. Porter is not good against lefties, but maybe we could at least put Frost in there and let him do some bunting to at least give us a chance at a hit. Armstrong just isn't a SEC hitter IMO.

    Thoughts?

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    You simply can't mess with the rotation at this point IMHO.

    I'd love to see more Porter against righties, but he has been getting action there..just not against lefties. I'd like to see more Frost as well. Whatever the reason, I just think Armstrong has been given plenty of opportunities lately and has not been effective.

    Why has Robson been neglected all the sudden? not that I love robson at the plate or anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman14 View Post
    Why has Robson been neglected all the sudden? not that I love robson at the plate or anything...
    Because we didn't see a single RH starting pitcher against South Carolina. We will probably see him this week...but not until at least the 3rd game because Mizzou and USC will start lefties.

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    When I think of Armstrong, I don't think of an SEC hitter nor a DH.

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    If Slauter can hold a bat he's gotta be your DH vs LHP. I think we ****ed up with Flair this year. We could have obviously used him vs SC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    If Slauter can hold a bat he's gotta be your DH vs LHP. I think we ****ed up with Flair this year. We could have obviously used him vs SC.
    Just a question, how is this so? What are you basing this on? The fact he batted over .500 in less than ten at bats against SWAC pitching? Clearly, they dont think hes a good hitter at this stage or he'd have had more opportunities. As for slaughter, I don't like dh'ing your back up catcher. Especially when he's not a great hitter. For that matte he's not even a good hitter. Now, I'm not promoting armstrong for our rh dh, I'd rather hit porter all the time myself.

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    If your question is about Flair, I think he's better than Armstrong and if Cohen absolutely
    wants a RH vs a LHP Flair > Armstrong. Slauter can't hit? Just like Porter huh. No track record with either of those guys*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    If your question is about Flair, I think he's better than Armstrong and if Cohen absolutely
    wants a RH vs a LHP Flair > Armstrong. Slauter can't hit? Just like Porter huh. No track record with either of those guys*
    Yes it was about flair. So you are basing this off of at bats against the swac. Whereas the staff is basing it off of the entire fall and spring.........I said slaughter wasn't a good hitter. As for track record, it's not like he wore it out last year, he didn't, he hit .232, this year .237. I like him as a player-catcher, handles the p staff great.I dont like him as a dh.
    Last edited by Homedawg; 05-21-2013 at 07:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Yes it was about flair. So you are basing this off of at bats against the swac. Whereas the staff is basing it off of the entire fall and spring.........I said slaughter wasn't a good hitter. As for track record, it's not like he wore it out last year, he didn't. I like him as a player-catcher, handles the p staff great.I dont like him as a dh.
    Im basing Flair off of potential and because Armstrong has not been good. Its a "can't be much worse" situation. Also I regret to inform you that Slauter had the 2nd most walks on the team last year with a higher on base than Renfroe and Bradford. This year even through injuries and slumps he's only 8 points behind Rea in on base percentage.

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    I know slaughters stats. Which say he's a guy who has never hit .240. Again, I'm not for Armstrong. Just not for slaughter, for multiple reasons.

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    Counting this and last season Trey Porter has reached base 53 times in ways that reflect nothing in batting average.

    Counting this and last season Mitch Slauter has reached base 64 times in ways that reflect nothing in batting average.

    Stop telling me about batting average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    Counting this and last season Trey Porter has reached base 53 times in ways that reflect nothing in batting average.

    Counting this and last season Mitch Slauter has reached base 64 times in ways that reflect nothing in batting average.

    Stop telling me about batting average.
    That's right, it's clearly an unimportant stat because you don't recognize it. I forgot you are the guru.

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    I'm confused why slaughter isn't going to get drafted- he had a higher obp than Renfroe did last year he should have been on their radar. And getting on base is important, but it doesn't make one a good hitter. No one gets drafted because their obp is high alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    I think Cohen needs to drop the matchup thing for our DH if our only RH option is Armstrong, and go with Frost or Porter. Porter is not good against lefties, but maybe we could at least put Frost in there and let him do some bunting to at least give us a chance at a hit. Armstrong just isn't a SEC hitter IMO.

    Thoughts?
    This.

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    Too add to this Slaughter has struck out 28 times in 93 Ab's. That's 30% of the time. I'm sure you have a stat to tell me someway that's productive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Too add to this Slaughter has struck out 28 times in 93 Ab's. That's 30% of the time. I'm sure you have a stat to tell me someway that's productive.
    Well, K% is actually measured in plate appearances not at bats. And strikeouts aren't statistically that much worse than other outs. But here is our K% leaders.

    Fullerton 33.30%
    Armstrong 31.50%
    Hann 25.70%
    Rea 24.00%
    Slauter 23.50%
    Robson 21.20%
    Britton 21.10%
    Norris 20.80%
    Henderson 17.20%
    Frost 16.50%
    Renfroe 14.60%
    Detz 14.00%
    Ammirati 14.00%
    Bradford 13.40%
    Porter 11.90%
    Pirtle 10.30%
    Frazier 8.70%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    Well, K% is actually measured in plate appearances not at bats. And strikeouts aren't statistically that much worse than other outs. But here is our K% leaders.

    Fullerton 33.30%
    Armstrong 31.50%
    Hann 25.70%
    Rea 24.00%
    Slauter 23.50%
    Robson 21.20%
    Britton 21.10%
    Norris 20.80%
    Henderson 17.20%
    Frost 16.50%
    Renfroe 14.60%
    Detz 14.00%
    Ammirati 14.00%
    Bradford 13.40%
    Porter 11.90%
    Pirtle 10.30%
    Frazier 8.70%
    You just said all I need to know. Strikeouts aren't much worse than any other out. Only one good thing can happen if you strikeout. That happens one out of 100 maybe. So that's plain ******* stupid. Isn't that why you want a strikeout guy to come in w runners on? Strikeouts equal ZERo production. Putting it in play allows for your luck to come into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    You just said all I need to know. Strikeouts aren't much worse than any other out. Only one good thing can happen if you strikeout. That happens one out of 100 maybe. So that's plain ******* stupid. Isn't that why you want a strikeout guy to come in w runners on? Strikeouts equal ZERo production. Putting it in play allows for your luck to come into play.
    It is worse, but not as much as people think. For example, a K is not as bad as a double play. The K is a lot better for pitchers than it is bad for hitters.

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/201...ad-for-hitters

    It actually makes a ton of sense.

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