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[Coach34]

Skenes had bad starts at Air Force. Bednar had bad starts in 21. Holman had bad starts at Bama. You know all this, you're not dumb. But you still pull from Molinas worst performances to pretend thatsbwhat he is. It's intellectually dishonest unless you're going to do that for all our guys too

So Molina just happened to have bad starts against good teams? Kansas St was a good team????? Is this where we are now? Well, let's see. Kansas St lost to:

Lamar
Sam Houston
Iowa
Omaha
Lost 2/3 from 20-35 Baylor
St. Thomas (who the **** is that?)
Air Force
Nebraska
Wichita St x 2
UC Irvine

[Cooterpoot]

[confucius say]

So Molina just happened to have bad starts against good teams? Kansas St was a good team????? Is this where we are now? Well, let's see. Kansas St lost to:

Lamar
Sam Houston
Iowa
Omaha
Lost 2/3 from 20-35 Baylor
St. Thomas (who the **** is that?)
Air Force
Nebraska
Wichita St x 2
UC Irvine

Kansas state was solid. Go look at their resume. But they were nothing special. He was good against them. But that has nothing to do with the point. Take them out.

He had 2 bad starts. One against a team that finished 4th in the country (TCU) and one against a team that went to a regional (Oklahoma).
He had 6 other starts against regional/super regional teams and had a 2.81 era over those 6 starts.

0 ER in 5.0 vs Iowa. Tourney team.
3 ER in 5.1 vs OK st. Regional host.
2 ER in 5.0 vs Texas. Super regional team.
2 ER in 4.2 vs West Va. Regional team.
1 ER in 6.0 vs West Va again. Regional team.
2 ER in 6.0 Va Top 10 UConn. Regional team.

Nobody is saying he is Skenes, but he's better than anything we had and would be our Friday night guy as of today, hands down. Everybody on this board knows that, including you.

[Cooterpoot]

It's hard to say Molina lost when he pitched against good teams while saying our Purdue guy is good outside two games, one to an awful OM team, and in a terrible conference. We bombed the portal. We could use Molina.

[Cowbell]

It's hard to say Molina lost when he pitched against good teams while saying our Purdue guy is good outside two games, one to an awful OM team, and in a terrible conference. We bombed the portal. We could use Molina.

It's sad when we did the same in the portal or less than Bianco after finishing dead last

[Pancho]

we'll know by mid march to early april next year..........which sec teams who finished above msu this past year appear to have less overall talent in 24? I'll wait.

[confucius say]

It's hard to say Molina lost when he pitched against good teams while saying our Purdue guy is good outside two games, one to an awful OM team, and in a terrible conference. We bombed the portal. We could use Molina.

And that was only two bad starts. Bednar had that in 2021.
He had 6 good starts against regional/super regional teams.

[confucius say]

we'll know by mid march to early april next year..........which sec teams who finished above msu this past year appear to have less overall talent in 24? I'll wait.

Less talent in 2024 than they had in 2023? LSU for one.

We have a lot of young talent. We just have to get some young pitchers to develop fast.

[Pancho]

I agree on pitchers needing to develop and LSU having less talent than in 23. If LSU is the only team who finished above MSU who has less talent in 24 then where will Lemo finish? does he press up hard and finish 10th or maybe strain for 9th place? I am still having issues understanding what Lemo will do different than the past 2 seasons.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

So Molina just happened to have bad starts against good teams? Kansas St was a good team????? Is this where we are now? Well, let's see. Kansas St lost to:

Lamar
Sam Houston
Iowa
Omaha
Lost 2/3 from 20-35 Baylor
St. Thomas (who the **** is that?)
Air Force
Nebraska
Wichita St x 2
UC Irvine

Cherry picking from my comments I see to ignore almost everything I said. It's not unnoticed by the people reading the board

Anyway, your logic is still inconsistent and hypocritical:

Loftin had a double digit ERA vs the only 2 tournament teams he faced, yet you cite his overall stats to say he'll be good in 24. Loo and Holcombe had almost nothing but bad starts last year, but you want us to ignore all that and trust they'll get massively better because "tallent". Our Miami and Purdue transfers had bad starts and worse overall stats than Molina, yet you want us to ignore all that because they could improve.... but when it comes to Molina, suddenly every start is under a microscope to judge him only be the bad starts?

Would you like to discuss the 104IP sub 3 ERA 2nd team All American Kentucky got from the Portal? Or is he not a "Friday guy" either? Or is Kentucky another program we can't hope to ever beat for a Portal kid? Fact is there's a LOT of Portal arms we could have used and Lemo simply failed to get them

[Coach34]

I agree on pitchers needing to develop and LSU having less talent than in 23. If LSU is the only team who finished above MSU who has less talent in 24 then where will Lemo finish? does he press up hard and finish 10th or maybe strain for 9th place? I am still having issues understanding what Lemo will do different than the past 2 seasons.

Well, the sentiment here is that we return a helluva lot and that is why we should be improved.

Offense/Defense- we return 1st base Hines, 2nd base Larry, SS Mershon, LF Jordan, and Catcher Highfill. We have upgraded at 3rd base with the Memphis trans so the infield will be pretty good. Now the questions are what do we get from Hugesak in CF? Who plays RF and DH? We have quality signees at SS and 1B (Cupp/Stevens) with the 1B kid a candidate at DH- he is supposed to be the next Hines. I think we have Chance and Downs returning- so they factor in also. Strong top of the line with questions at the bottom.

Pitching? My rotation would be:

Fri- Loftin
Sat- Holcombe
Sunday- Ligon
Midweek- Siary
Closer- Loo

Relief- Simmons, Dohm, Auger, Purdue, Tapper, Davis, Forsythe, Cheatham
True Freshmen- Grant/Dotson/Walsh....what can these guys give us? Grant and Dotson are pretty highly rated and should contribute. Dotson really needs to help with him being a Lefty.

To me- thats a regional team 2 seed at worst

[TStationDawg]

Well, the sentiment here is that we return a helluva lot and that is why we should be improved.

Offense/Defense- we return 1st base Hines, 2nd base Larry, SS Mershon, LF Jordan, and Catcher Highfill. We have upgraded at 3rd base with the Memphis trans so the infield will be pretty good. Now the questions are what do we get from Hugesak in CF? Who plays RF and DH? We have quality signees at SS and 1B (Cupp/Stevens) with the 1B kid a candidate at DH- he is supposed to be the next Hines. I think we have Chance and Downs returning- so they factor in also. Strong top of the line with questions at the bottom.

Pitching? My rotation would be:

Fri- Loftin
Sat- Holcombe
Sunday- Ligon
Midweek- Siary
Closer- Loo

Relief- Simmons, Dohm, Auger, Purdue, Tapper, Davis, Forsythe, Cheatham
True Freshmen- Grant/Dotson/Walsh....what can these guys give us? Grant and Dotson are pretty highly rated and should contribute. Dotson really needs to help with him being a Lefty.

To me- thats a regional team 2 seed at worst

Will Pico not be able to pitch this year or did he leave the team?? I haven't heard or seen anyone mentioning him.

[Saltydog]

Will Pico not be able to pitch this year or did he leave the team?? I haven't heard or seen anyone mentioning him.

He's still here but had TJ surgery middle of the season so he's out next year too.

[Coach34]

He's still here but had TJ surgery middle of the season so he's out next year too.

He will be at a year around April. While advancements have been made on that surgery- it's still unlikely to contribute at a year out. It's basically a 15 month rehab if all goes well.

[bigbub50]

So is this thread over now with Montgomerys official announcement? If so, I?m sad. It?s been a great thread.

[Mjoelner34]

So is this thread over now with Montgomerys official announcement? If so, I?m sad. It?s been a great thread.

Over? Without reading back I thought the 'Montfomery is coming' crew was also mentioning secret transfers that didn't want their name out there. Shouldn't we be waiting on those secret commits?

[raymonddawg]

The "montgomery is coming" crew had the best piece of insider info this site has had in a while. They called that wayyyyy before it was out there. AND they were right, but AM offered a stupid NIL deal to the kid. Also, F Lemonis for not landing a big fish from the portal.

[smootness]

The "montgomery is coming" crew had the best piece of insider info this site has had in a while. They called that wayyyyy before it was out there. AND they were right, but AM offered a stupid NIL deal to the kid. Also, F Lemonis for not landing a big fish from the portal.

You call your shots, you get some right and some wrong. You should soak in the credit for what you get right, but you also have to eat what you got wrong. This one was a miss, along with all the other thinly veiled mentions of other guys we were going to be getting.

This portal season was one massive L from Lemonis. And at the worst possible time. We might be halfway decent next year if enough guys progress, but Lemonis is gone soon one way or another. So I'd rather it go ahead and happen this year.

[The Federalist Engineer]

So is this thread over now with Montgomerys official announcement? If so, I?m sad. It?s been a great thread.

This was a thread to honor our Elite Recruiting Head Coach.

[bigbub50]

Let?s spin this, somewhere a msu booster or boosters have saved approximately 500k-750k on these two major misses. A penny saved is a penny earned, dad always told me.