NCAA Baseball Transfer Portal

[Homedawg]

While 500K for one baseball player for one season is over the top, given we didn't sign Holman, we should be able to offer a pretty nice NIL package to BM. Nobody else that we've gotten out of the portal should have required much wrt to an NIL package.

We have a nice package. We have plenty. That's not it. We aren't losing him bc of our offer. Just not true

[Cowbell]

No ...

I had heard double that..

[Really Clark?]

260k?

More than that. And it's really one pushing money and it's not his mom.

We have a great offer to them, we have made a great offer to help keep him and his hitting coach / trainer with one on one sessions...our package is a top tier package. Just up to him to decided what he wants to do.

[basedog]

I hope we get him, but in saying that I’m not sure how much of a difference he can make for our team. Our weakness on the field has been pitching. Something just doesn’t seem right, I’m wondering if his “agent” is the problem. Wonder what Stanford is thinking?

[Cowbell]

More than that. And it's really one pushing money and it's not his mom.

We have a great offer to them, we have made a great offer to help keep him and his hitting coach / trainer with one on one sessions...our package is a top tier package. Just up to him to decided what he wants to do.

Again, is his dad a preacher?

[Coach34]

I hope we get him, but in saying that I’m not sure how much of a difference he can make for our team. Our weakness on the field has been pitching. Something just doesn’t seem right, I’m wondering if his “agent” is the problem. Wonder what Stanford is thinking?

You dont think a 3 hole hitter matters much? Cmon you know better.

Supposedly its us or A&M- he's done at Stanford. Supposedly

[basedog]

You dont think a 3 hole hitter matters much? Cmon you know better.

Supposedly its us or A&M- he's done at Stanford. Supposedly

I said I hope we get him, my question is how much improvement, pitching has been our biggest problem. No doubt he can help.

[State82]

You dont think a 3 hole hitter matters much?

I think, to put it another way, base's comment could be described as follows: What would have made a drastically different impact on 2024? A 3-hole hitter or a Friday night starter, aka Holman? Without a legit money guy on Friday, how much does any other position player really move the needle when all is said and done?

[basedog]

I think, to put it another way, base's comment could be described as follows: What would have made a drastically different impact on 2024? A 3-hole hitter or a Friday night starter, aka Holman? Without a legit money guy on Friday, how much does any other position player really move the needle when all is said and done?

You summed up my thoughts exactly. Even 34 is on record saying we are gonna be good at the plate 2024. If so, we need major improvements in pitching, it’s all questionable and I hope Lemonis is gonna pull this off for 2024.

I hate this NIL thing and the NCAA letting players opt out without having to sit a year. It’s pro ball now.

[confucius say]

I hope we get him, but in saying that I’m not sure how much of a difference he can make for our team. Our weakness on the field has been pitching. Something just doesn’t seem right, I’m wondering if his “agent” is the problem. Wonder what Stanford is thinking?

His "agent" is on our side

[Coach34]

I think, to put it another way, base's comment could be described as follows: What would have made a drastically different impact on 2024? A 3-hole hitter or a Friday night starter, aka Holman? Without a legit money guy on Friday, how much does any other position player really move the needle when all is said and done?

but my response is that Holman is not an option- so landing a 3-hole hitter to give us what could be the SEC's best hitting line-up is a big damn deal.

We have 5 arms competing for 3 weekend spots. I feel like we'll be fine. aGAIN- nobody expected Holman to be what he was this past season after his freshman season.

Tennessee's best SP didnt even pitch in 2022
SC's best threw 7 innings in 2022
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Every pitcher in the SEC top 15 in ERA improved from the year before. Ours will too

[Homedawg]

More than that. And it's really one pushing money and it's not his mom.

We have a great offer to them, we have made a great offer to help keep him and his hitting coach / trainer with one on one sessions...our package is a top tier package. Just up to him to decided what he wants to do.

This ^

[The Federalist Engineer]

The problem is if we give him 500k, how does it make other current roster players like DJ and Hines feel...

500 and even 250 is too much for a player that is not Dylan Crews or Paul Skenes.

Those guys put you into the top SEC echelon and probably put you in Omaha. Even if had a 9-21 team otherwise. Skenes more so than Crews.

The iQ 200 move is to see what 3 other portal kids (committed elsewhere) you can get for 80K a piece. I rather make that move to bolster a 10-20 team and not price the Portal to pyrrhic disaster levels.

[CaptainObvious]

When is final enrollment day at State?

[Pancho]

Won't BM be a top 5 in the first round pick next year regardless of where he plays in 24?

[MetEdDawg]

Won't BM be a top 5 in the first round pick next year regardless of where he plays in 24?

Yes and he would be well worth the money. If we want kids like that in our program, this is the money that's required.

Folks will learn quick that it's expensive to get good players so the more we give the better chance we have to get them.

[Todd4State]

You summed up my thoughts exactly. Even 34 is on record saying we are gonna be good at the plate 2024. If so, we need major improvements in pitching, it’s all questionable and I hope Lemonis is gonna pull this off for 2024.

I hate this NIL thing and the NCAA letting players opt out without having to sit a year. It’s pro ball now.

We were so bad on the mound there is only two ways out of it. To get better pitchers or to coach them up.

I don't think we're so devoid of talent on the mound that we can't improve with some decent development.

[basedog]

We were so bad on the mound there is only two ways out of it. To get better pitchers or to coach them up.

I don't think we're so devoid of talent on the mound that we can't improve with some decent development.

I agree. I hope we have enough depth.

[Todd4State]

I agree. I hope we have enough depth.

We currently have three top 200 MLB draft prospects that are pitchers on the roster- Holcombe, Loo, and Loftin. Dohm is a good pitcher and likely a draft pick. He can help out in relief at worst and may even emerge as a starting pitcher. Cam Schuelke and Gavin Black are two JUCO guys that pitched in the Cape. Evan Siary has had a really good summer. Ligdon and Stephens look like solid transfer pick ups. Parker has something to work with. We get Stone Simmons and Brett Auger back too.

I mean Loo and Loftin were literally high school pitchers last year because of lack of development and Loftin was hurt.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I don't believe they paid him 500k.skenes was like 150k, Tommy Tanks like 250k. Both are better than Montgomery. I don't believe the NIL market for Baseball has changed quite that fast that's its comparable to high end football transfers. It also doesn't make sense to throw 500k at an OF when they weren't throwing that at Burns, Holman, Molina, or any of these pitchers who absolutely would help them more than a bat. Like why obly throw money at Poral players now? And why is BM the one they're obsessed with?

No, my guess is that some on the State side would rather the narrative be "we can't compete with that insane money" than the truth, which is "Montgomery, despight all his ties to State, doesn't want to play for us because he wants to win"