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08-01-2023, 11:03 AM
#1321
I think we've got a lot of arms but little proven pitching. LH pitching is short.
We should score as much as the next team, so get that ERA to around 5 and we're good.
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08-01-2023, 12:21 PM
#1322

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well, we now have 5 guys with the talent to be a weekend SP. It's up to Parker now to get 3 of them ready.
We still lack LHP is my only real concern for 24
LHP on Roster:
(1) Loftin - So
(2) CJ - but RH is more advanced than LH
(3) Tapper- So
(4) Cheetham- JR
(5) Tyler Davis - SR, transfer from VCU that had a bad year
(6) Lamb - Grad from D2, career starter
(7) Dotson -FR highly rated
(8) Nolan Stevens -FR is big hitter that also pitches
(9) Dane Burns -FR
(10) Reilly Byers -FR
(11) Pico Kohn- Injury Recovery
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08-01-2023, 12:35 PM
#1323
So basically Loftin and Tapper
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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08-01-2023, 01:20 PM
#1324

Originally Posted by
Coach34
So basically Loftin and Tapper
Nate Lamb was a pretty good D2 pitcher. Also had a decent summer as well. But yeah, Loftin, Tapper, and a bunch of freshman.
I'm surprised Cheatham didn't transfer out. I don't see him ever doing much here.
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08-01-2023, 01:41 PM
#1325
We certainly could have a freshman step up and give us 10 innings in SEC play. Need 3 pen lefty's at a minimum. Got to have them step up
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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08-01-2023, 03:49 PM
#1326
You almost have to figure one starter
going down to injury and 2 bullpen guys
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08-01-2023, 04:16 PM
#1327

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Bud if you put me on that mound I promise you I won't turn into a "very solid performer". We played guys we had no business playing due to lack of arms, not because those Fr forced themselves onto the field due to raw talent
Well I guess it is safe to say ?the_real_MSU? won?t be giving us any quality innings out of the pen, so there goes that plan. With confidence like that, best to stay in the stands and sharpshoot the kids with actual ability to be on the field (or team) and criticize them for not being any good…Enter all the sarcastricks that you want!
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08-01-2023, 04:37 PM
#1328

Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
LHP on Roster:
(1) Loftin - So
(2) CJ - but RH is more advanced than LH
(3) Tapper- So
(4) Cheetham- JR
(5) Tyler Davis - SR, transfer from VCU that had a bad year
(6) Lamb - Grad from D2, career starter
(7) Dotson -FR highly rated
(8) Nolan Stevens -FR is big hitter that also pitches
(9) Dane Burns -FR
(10) Reilly Byers -FR
(11) Pico Kohn- Injury Recovery
I'm holding out hope that Davis is better than he showed much of the season. He shut LSU down when he was on, scattered 2 hits over 4 innings and was cruising the whole time.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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08-01-2023, 07:03 PM
#1329

Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
I'm holding out hope that Davis is better than he showed much of the season. He shut LSU down when he was on, scattered 2 hits over 4 innings and was cruising the whole time.
This is the guy that I want to see what happens with. If he has a considerable amount of improvement, Foxhall needs to go coach high school ball somewhere. Davis should have been better than he was simply because he is an older guy that has experience and surely had some success previously. At State, he didn?t just struggle in the SEC, but struggled early in the year against weaker teams that he surely showed that he could handle when he was at VCU.
I haven?t looked up his numbers but if he sucked at VCU, how did he get to MSU? I don?t think he did.
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08-01-2023, 07:25 PM
#1330

Originally Posted by
AlSwearengen
I haven?t looked up his numbers but if he sucked at VCU, how did he get to MSU? I don?t think he did.
Let me introduce you to a guy named Von Seibert lol
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08-01-2023, 07:40 PM
#1331

Originally Posted by
AlSwearengen
I haven?t looked up his numbers but if he sucked at VCU, how did he get to MSU? I don?t think he did.
Hailstate.com
2022 (Sophomore Season – VCU)
Season: Helped guide the team to an Atlantic 10 Championship… Appeared in 17 games, including 15 starts… Compiled a 5-3 record with a 3.60 ERA… Struck out 63 batters in 60.0 innings, walking just 21 and limiting hitters to a .210 average… Struck out a career-high seven batters across four scoreless innings in his first career start against No. 24 Old Dominion on March 1.
I think, generally, if you average better than 1 k per inning and have a 3/1 K to BB ratio that's pretty good. Competition depending.
Last edited by Leroy Jenkins; 08-01-2023 at 07:44 PM.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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08-01-2023, 07:46 PM
#1332
Guess C34 isn't the only one who sees light at the end of the tunnel....
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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08-01-2023, 08:06 PM
#1333

Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Guess C34 isn't the only one who sees light at the end of the tunnel....
If we finish the year at #21 that's right at the borderline of firing Lemonis or not. There aren't anywhere close to 20 other programs who care as much as we do. While it's an improvement over the last 2 years, it's yet another year below what our baseline should be.
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08-01-2023, 08:22 PM
#1334
That's 8th in the SEC. Nothing great about that unless there's a post season run.
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08-01-2023, 08:41 PM
#1335
"College Baseball Nation"
Never heard of them, they may want MSU's vast fanbase as subscribers
"Clicks" is probably why they put LSU as #1 and the real #1 at #7. Lots of LSU fans too.
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08-02-2023, 07:23 AM
#1336

Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
LHP on Roster:
(1) Loftin - So
(2) CJ - but RH is more advanced than LH
(3) Tapper- So
(4) Cheetham- JR
(5) Tyler Davis - SR, transfer from VCU that had a bad year
(6) Lamb - Grad from D2, career starter
(7) Dotson -FR highly rated
(8) Nolan Stevens -FR is big hitter that also pitches
(9) Dane Burns -FR
(10) Reilly Byers -FR
(11) Pico Kohn- Injury Recovery
Should be enough to expect 1 or 2 to be able to step up and be that LH matchup guy that we haven't had in a while.
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08-02-2023, 10:37 AM
#1337

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
That's 8th in the SEC. Nothing great about that unless there's a post season run.
If we jump from 2 years of not making Hoover to finishing the year ranked #21 as a high 2 seed somewhere Lemonis will survive. It's still not where we want to be but thats a huge positive jump from where we've been.
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08-02-2023, 11:08 AM
#1338

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
If we jump from 2 years of not making Hoover to finishing the year ranked #21 as a high 2 seed somewhere Lemonis will survive. It's still not where we want to be but thats a huge positive jump from where we've been.
Agreed on all counts.
Sadly, our incoming recruiting will begin to take a dive due to those players having commited during 2 years of no Hoover vs the current incoming classes that saw us win a Natty. And in 25 we will be replacing Jordan, Hines, the new 3B transfer, Hujesak (only a loss IF he pans out like many here say), and Larry. On the mound well lose the transfers we're counting on plus a couple of the current Fr some here are expecting to be starters next year.
So, my prediction is that in '24 we'll be just good enough to save Lemo, but down again in '25 and he'll be fired then. The next coach will have to overcome a couple mediocre recruiting classes that he wouldn't have had to if we replaced Lemo in '23.
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08-02-2023, 12:17 PM
#1339

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Agreed on all counts.
Sadly, our incoming recruiting will begin to take a dive due to those players having commited during 2 years of no Hoover vs the current incoming classes that saw us win a Natty. And in 25 we will be replacing Jordan, Hines, the new 3B transfer, Hujesak (only a loss IF he pans out like many here say), and Larry. On the mound well lose the transfers we're counting on plus a couple of the current Fr some here are expecting to be starters next year.
So, my prediction is that in '24 we'll be just good enough to save Lemo, but down again in '25 and he'll be fired then. The next coach will have to overcome a couple mediocre recruiting classes that he wouldn't have had to if we replaced Lemo in '23.
That's not necessarily the case. According to Perfect Game, our '24 class is #12 (11 commits) and '25 is #13 (9 commits). That is above mediocre - but like Football, it is behind a number of "have's" in the SEC. We will need to add to it - and there is a whole lot time between now and then. If anything, the right hire can build on that if needed.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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08-02-2023, 12:23 PM
#1340

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
If we jump from 2 years of not making Hoover to finishing the year ranked #21 as a high 2 seed somewhere Lemonis will survive. It's still not where we want to be but thats a huge positive jump from where we've been.
He makes the Tourney in 24 and his job is likely safe unless it’s a 3 seed somewhere and an 0-2 Tourney. The thing is- if you make the Tourney as an SEC team- there is very little chance of being a 3 seed.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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