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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Yessir. And Brett Cleveland had some choice words walking off the mound.
    Jet Butler had a big hit
    One of my favorite moments in om/State history...hearing (and the camera clearly caught them) Cleveland's words as he struck out the side and headed back into the dugout!

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    Lemonis has spent a concerning amount of time out at SCC over the past year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3dawgnight15 View Post
    Lemon is has spent a concerning amount of time out at SCC over the past year.
    Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlSwearengen View Post
    i'd be a little nervous about extending after a good season next year. I need to see some sustained success. If he has a good year next, he should be able to have a little more success in the portal, so no excuses about losing players.
    If we make a Super Regional next year I think it's fairly safe to assume that the past two years were due to Foxhall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Yessir. And Brett Cleveland had some choice words walking off the mound.
    Jet Butler had a big hit
    I think you mean Jeff Butts. Jet Butler wasn't on the team yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I think you mean Jeff Butts. Jet Butler wasn't on the team yet.
    Ahhhh yep that's right. Getting old

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    Let?s look at what a 2 seed level of improvement might look like:

    2023 27-26 (9-21)

    2024 33-23 (13-17) could possibly get a 2 seed. Is a 6 win overall improvement and 4 SEC win improvement good enough to stay the course and give Lemonis an extension? Because he will have to have an extension and therefore and extended buyout back up to $6 mil. plus.

    You also have to look at the whole picture, not just that the team was <awarded> a 2 seed primarily based on conference affiliation. What if of the 6 non-con losses mentioned in my example, a few are to less than stellar programs? What if the 17 SEC losses include some ridiculous sweep or series losses?

    I will forever maintain that the 21 team won it all in spite of Lemonis, built by previous staffs.
    If we are who we say we are 33-23 after 2 years of garbage aint good enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    It depends on what the young arms do. If they develop we will be fine. If they develop to their ceiling we will be a host. Either way, we will know soon.
    But to say a 2 seed sucks is still extreme.
    If the season started today and rosters locked, hard to think MSU would be better than 15 wins but I think better than 10 wins. Looks like Parker better be good or ... MSU has to hire Muscara as HC this coming summer.

    Just in the SEC West
    (1a) Arkansas - they have the two best starters Hagen Smith and Molina
    (1b) LSU - Hurd looked fixed in Omaha and added another UCLA kid and now Holman
    Then you have: Auburn, MSU, and Texas A&M as un-predictable
    (Last) Alabama - lost many players, Draft and Transfers

    MSU has 1st Round and Early round guys for 2024
    OF- Jordan
    RHP- Cjintje, pitch him RH on Saturday but LH in relief on Friday or Sunday. IQ 200 move
    RHP- Ligon, the sneaky best transfer in the SEC.
    1B- Hines, could be MSU's first 30 HR of my lifetime
    RHP- Holcombe
    RHP- Dohm

    Also have quiet guys that are plain good
    2B- Larry
    3B- Koehler
    DH- Hujsak
    OF- Chance (hit 350!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Let's assume we make a regional, if so, there still shouldn't be any hurry for an extension if he is retained. Fact is if he isn't fired why would we be so dumb to extend?
    Because he would be in the last year of his contract if you don?t extend him. What decent recruits are going to sign in 24 to play for a lame duck coach in 25. If he doesn?t get fired in May of 2024 for mediocre to below average performance, we will have him signed for another 4 years. What would be his incentive to do any better in 25 sitting on the last year of his contract. No coach will do that. As 34 says, we have 1 shot to get rid of him only if he underperforms next year.

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    Yep. He will be fired or extended next Summer
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    If the season started today and rosters locked, hard to think MSU would be better than 15 wins but I think better than 10 wins. Looks like Parker better be good or ... MSU has to hire Muscara as HC this coming summer.

    Just in the SEC West
    (1a) Arkansas - they have the two best starters Hagen Smith and Molina
    (1b) LSU - Hurd looked fixed in Omaha and added another UCLA kid and now Holman
    Then you have: Auburn, MSU, and Texas A&M as un-predictable
    (Last) Alabama - lost many players, Draft and Transfers

    MSU has 1st Round and Early round guys for 2024
    OF- Jordan
    RHP- Cjintje, pitch him RH on Saturday but LH in relief on Friday or Sunday. IQ 200 move
    RHP- Ligon, the sneaky best transfer in the SEC.
    1B- Hines, could be MSU's first 30 HR of my lifetime
    RHP- Holcombe
    RHP- Dohm

    Also have quiet guys that are plain good
    2B- Larry
    3B- Koehler
    DH- Hujsak
    OF- Chance (hit 350!)
    Good post and outlook (altho I look for Hugesak to be in CF and I dont expect alot from Chance- yet he could surprise). We have a large number of guys being drafted next July. This boo-hoo'ing about how we gonna be so bad is puzzling. That #5 in the country recruiting class will be Soph's and should be very improved. We are looking at least 7 guys drafted next July. Teams like that usually end being pretty good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Good post and outlook (altho I look for Hugesak to be in CF and I dont expect alot from Chance- yet he could surprise). We have a large number of guys being drafted next July. This boo-hoo'ing about how we gonna be so bad is puzzling. That #5 in the country recruiting class will be Soph's and should be very improved. We are looking at least 7 guys drafted next July. Teams like that usually end being pretty good
    Lemo has taken top 15 classes and produced missing the tournament results, but you think top 5 classes will be the key to him getting us back?

    For the millionth time, Hujesak didn't hit in his 2 years before state and he hit .227 his first year at State. Couldn't bump Hancocks weak bat from DH. The only evidence he'll be good next year is summer ball, which is fools gold more often than not and you know that.

    Remember when Slade Alford dominated his summer leage? I do: .https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/article/colton-ledbetter-slate-alford-mississippi-state-baseball-nebl--191284460/amp/
    Last edited by the_real_MSU_is_us; 07-29-2023 at 06:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    If the season started today and rosters locked, hard to think MSU would be better than 15 wins but I think better than 10 wins. Looks like Parker better be good or ... MSU has to hire Muscara as HC this coming summer.

    Just in the SEC West
    (1a) Arkansas - they have the two best starters Hagen Smith and Molina
    (1b) LSU - Hurd looked fixed in Omaha and added another UCLA kid and now Holman
    Then you have: Auburn, MSU, and Texas A&M as un-predictable
    (Last) Alabama - lost many players, Draft and Transfers

    MSU has 1st Round and Early round guys for 2024
    OF- Jordan
    RHP- Cjintje, pitch him RH on Saturday but LH in relief on Friday or Sunday. IQ 200 move
    RHP- Ligon, the sneaky best transfer in the SEC.
    1B- Hines, could be MSU's first 30 HR of my lifetime
    RHP- Holcombe
    RHP- Dohm

    Also have quiet guys that are plain good
    2B- Larry
    3B- Koehler
    DH- Hujsak
    OF- Chance (hit 350!)
    Pease enlighten me: how is Hujsak "plain good"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    Lemo has taken top 15 classes and produced missing the tournament results, but you think top 5 classes will be the key to him getting us back?

    For the millionth time, Hujesak didn't hit in his 2 years before state and he hit .227 his first year at State. Couldn't bump Hancocks weak bat from DH. The only evidence he'll be good next year is summer ball, which is fools gold more often than not and you know that.

    Remember when Slade Alford dominated his summer leage? I do: .https://www.google.com/amp/s/247spor...191284460/amp/
    A) We were 8th in SEC recruiting in 2020 and 2021- injuries hurt and terrible job by the PC made things worse.

    B) last 2 classes have been top 10 and filled with highly rated guys


    C) Hugesak is going to hit. Watch and see. He hit .290 with 32 X-base hits his Soph year. That's hitting. Not sure why you dont think it is. He didnt get consistent AB's in 2023. Of course he didnt hit. Look for him to take a big step this year.

    D) according to the link- Ledbetter had a great summer and then a great Spring for us. So while you point to Alford- I'll point to Ledbetter.

    E) After what we did to get Hancock back- 0% chance of us sitting him unless he totally bombed.
    Last edited by Coach34; 07-29-2023 at 07:34 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    A) We were 8th in SEC recruiting in 2020 and 2021- injuries hurt and terrible job by the PC made things worse.

    B) last 2 classes have been top 10 and filled with highly rated guys


    C) Hugesak is going to hit. Watch and see. He hit .290 with 32 X-base hits his Soph year. That's hitting. Not sure why you dont think it is. He didnt get consistent AB's in 2023. Of course he didnt hit. Look for him to take a big step this year.

    D) according to the link- Ledbetter had a great summer and then a great Spring for us. So while you point to Alford- I'll point to Ledbetter.

    E) After what we did to get Hancock back- 0% chance of us sitting him unless he totally bombed.
    B) 8th in recruiting and he finished 14th and 13th.

    C) .289 with 12 Homer's at VCU. That isn't SEC caliber hitting for the pitching he faced. Your reason for why he didn't hit this past season is, essentially, "Lemonis is too stupid to give him consistent ABs". Or is it that Lemo say Hujsak can't hit?

    D) you're the one stating as a fact Hujsak will hit next year. Yes some guys who hit in summer ball hit in the season (Led) and some don't (Alford). I'm not saying Hujsak CAN'T pan out, I'm saying you're irrational for saying he WILL with this high degree of certainty since summer ball stats are so all over the place.

    E) we benched Hancock at catcher, then benched him at 1B, and we dropped him in the lineup. But you think we wouldn't have DH a stud hitter over him? Come on. And again, like point C), your defense of Hujsak is essentially to throw Lemo under the bus with "Lemo doesn't play the best players". Maybe we actially do agree on baseball more than I thought lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    Pease enlighten me: how is Hujsak "plain good"?
    Bro, we've got to figure out what Hujsak ever did to you.

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    I’m not basing Hugesak on summer stats- I’m basing it off me watching him at the plate. He is going to hit. And you conveniently left off his 20 doubles when mentioning his 12 HR’s. No it wasn’t SEC pitching but he was also just a Soph as well.
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    He can run too. Very toolsy. And can't be worse in the outfield than Ledbetter. He just has to finally breakthrough with the hit tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    This boo-hoo'ing about how we gonna be so bad is puzzling.
    Because we were hot garbage this year. Our record was actually better than it should have been. That team was very bad. We?ve added some guys but nothing yet that is that impactful. So sure, we could have guys take a huge step forward, it happens in college baseball. We also might not. And we have to have a ton to go right to be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I’m not basing Hugesak on summer stats- I’m basing it off me watching him at the plate. He is going to hit. And you conveniently left off his 20 doubles when mentioning his 12 HR’s. No it wasn’t SEC pitching but he was also just a Soph as well.
    I agree. I went and studied his swing when we acquired him last year and he has the tools to be a very good hitter(I?ve also watched video of his swing from the cape and talked to some scouts). Dude has a high ceiling. He has pop, he can run, and his bat speed is excellent, and he plays extremely hard with a great attitude. I?m predicting he has a great year(just like I did with Yeager). If he doesn?t I?ll own it but he?s got what it takes to make it happen.

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