NCAA Baseball Transfer Portal

[Todd4State]

Turns out there were no secret portal guys. Just secret hopes. Lemon doing his best Cohen expression with the hype...what irony...

Nah. The staff just wasn't talking to the media very much about it. Rumor is Lemonis wasn't real happy with some things that were leaked during the pitching coach search.

Holman and Montgomery have been names of interest for awhile now.

[The Federalist Engineer]

No no no, you don't get to say we have a lot of talent and the only issue has been lack of pitching. Offense matters. Defense matters. Yes you can be middle of the pack in one if you elevate in the postseason and still win it all (see OM '22), but the total team talent matters too. The final 4 teams in Omaha were national seeds. Why? Because they had talent in their lineups and on the mound and you have to score runs AND pitch AND play D to win it all.

If you have talent in your lineup, the offense will produce. Just like if you have talent on the mound, the ERA will reflect that. You don't get to just say "10th placed offense and 14th placed defense are fine, we just need to improve on the mound because that was 14th".

I understand WHY you're saying that- so you can pin all blame on Fox. But Lemo has let every aspect of this team crumble and it's getting worse the more of his players we get to campus

Lemons owns the Fox performance. Period. MsState7 was always right about that. He was just too expensive to fire or the AD did not want to do it. There is a rumor that buyout money was donated.

The good news is that Muscara is still a PC. I wonder if he is a candidate for MSU HC if he continues to excel and Lemons fails in 2024. That said, I think MSU competes for a hosted regional with Montgomery and two more quality portal arms (not factoring Holman that is being so competitively recruited.)

[The Federalist Engineer]

I have a personal saying. I've seen bad hitting and fielding teams win championships. I've never seen a bad pitching team win one.

Tommy Tanks was a 850 fielding guy but I never saw an error in Omaha. LSU rose to the occasion.

[SPMT]

I have a personal saying. I've seen bad hitting and fielding teams win championships. I've never seen a bad pitching team win one.

Memory tells me ucla beat us in 2013 with pitching. Lots of fly outs. And they

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Tommy Tanks was a 850 fielding guy but I never saw an error in Omaha. LSU rose to the occasion.

Morgan making the best play I've ever seen a 1B make at any level is the only reason they beat Wake. Tanks hitting that extra inning HR was also a huge reason they beat Wake.

Pitching may be most important, but hitting and defense matter too.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I have a personal saying. I've seen bad hitting and fielding teams win championships. I've never seen a bad pitching team win one.

Ole Miss was 9th in ERA in conference only games in '22. In baseball teams can get hot, doesn't mean much. Being good in the regular season correlates strongly to being good in the postseason. That's true for subcategories like pitching, hitting, and defense.

[Todd4State]

Ole Miss was 9th in ERA in conference only games in '22. In baseball teams can get hot, doesn't mean much. Being good in the regular season correlates strongly to being good in the postseason. That's true for subcategories like pitching, hitting, and defense.

That's because you have to be good in the regular season to make the postseason. Ole Miss's pitching carried it in the postseason in 2022. I don't think there is much argument about that. Or there shouldn't be.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

That's because you have to be good in the regular season to make the postseason. Ole Miss's pitching carried it in the postseason in 2022. I don't think there is much argument about that. Or there shouldn't be.

I can't believe I'm actually having to argue that offense and defense affect how good the team is.

Yes, you need pitching.

You also need to score 1+ run to win.

Ole Miss had great pitching in the postseason but they also scored runs.

Having a good offense = you'll score runs and the pitching doesn't have to be as good for you to win.

Playing good defense means your pitching doesn't have to be as good for you to win.

Pitching great takes pressure off the offense and means you can still win even if the offense struggles vs a great pitcher.

To say "pitching is all the matters" if the equivalent of saying in football "defense is all that matters, who cares what our QB play looks like", or of saying in basketball "defense? Nahbro just hit 3s at a high rate". And again, actual baseball coaches say you're wrong. They bend over backwards to recruit, develop, and Portal in good hitters. Because it matters

Listen to yourselves. You're so desperate to say "Fox was the only problem" that you're actually saying the quality of out lineup and defense has no affect on postseason success. That the equation "Wins = runs for us - runs allowed" is wrong because scoring doesn't matter.

Hell, C34 literally made a whole thread just to say our lineup will be good next year lol. Yall don't even believe that "pitching is all that matters", you're just willing to lie to win an argument

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I have a personal saying. I've seen bad hitting and fielding teams win championships. I've never seen a bad pitching team win one.

I've never seen a team that can't score runs win won. Have you?

I've seen teams that couldn't hit in the regular season get hot in the postseason, and I've seen teams that couldn't pitch in the regular season become unhitable in the postseason (see LSU this year)

Remember when we played Auburn game 1 of the CWS? We only won because their 3B made an error in the 9th. Or when Arky was 1 out away from a NC and they let a pop fly fall between 3 players because nobody called for it? Or remember LSU vs Wake where Morgan threw the ball home while diving to tag out the would-of-been winning run? Almost like defense was important there too.

[CaptainObvious]

In college baseball where a 4.75 ERA is considered good, and more often than not, an unearned run is scored, averaging 6 runs per game is a must. What was State?s Average Runs per game in SEC play in 2023?
Runs per game in the 21 SEC losses?
Runs per game in the 9 SEC wins?

[TNDawg35]

I don’t give a shit how stout our offense is, when you come to bat in the 3rd inning and it’s 12-1, 9 times out of 10, your loosing that game…

[confucius say]

Odd how actual coaches disagree with you about offense. Of course it matters! MLB drafts position players and gives huge contracts to them. College coaches use NIL on position players. To say "baseball is about pitching" is to say "Jay Johnson was an idiot for using NIL to get Tommy White". It's to say "we shouldn't have bothered to upgrade Alford at 3B".

Pitching is super important, nobody is denying that. But to make a statement like "baseball is about pitching" is just... man it's ignorant. It's like saying 3 ppibt shooting in basketball doesn't matter if you play good defense. It's like saying your defensive line doesn't matter if you have good LBs. It's like saying you don't need to know how to manage money if you have a high income.

The TEAM has issues. The TEAM needs to be improved.

I didn't say it was only about pitching.
But it is primarily about pitching.

Every coach in America will tell you that pitching is the most important aspect of your club. Always has been, always will be.

[confucius say]

I can't believe I'm actually having to argue that offense and defense affect how good the team is.

Yes, you need pitching.

You also need to score 1+ run to win.

Ole Miss had great pitching in the postseason but they also scored runs.

Having a good offense = you'll score runs and the pitching doesn't have to be as good for you to win.

Playing good defense means your pitching doesn't have to be as good for you to win.

Pitching great takes pressure off the offense and means you can still win even if the offense struggles vs a great pitcher.

To say "pitching is all the matters" if the equivalent of saying in football "defense is all that matters, who cares what our QB play looks like", or of saying in basketball "defense? Nahbro just hit 3s at a high rate". And again, actual baseball coaches say you're wrong. They bend over backwards to recruit, develop, and Portal in good hitters. Because it matters

Listen to yourselves. You're so desperate to say "Fox was the only problem" that you're actually saying the quality of out lineup and defense has no affect on postseason success. That the equation "Wins = runs for us - runs allowed" is wrong because scoring doesn't matter.

Hell, C34 literally made a whole thread just to say our lineup will be good next year lol. Yall don't even believe that "pitching is all that matters", you're just willing to lie to win an argument

Who said "pitching is all that matters?"

What people are saying is that pitching is by far the most important part of baseball. It can be phrased differently, but that's what people are telling you. Baseball is about pitching. Nobody is telling you that it is the only part of the game that matters at all.

[Coach34]

I've never seen a team that can't score runs win won. Have you? .

Yes- UCLA 2013. Team BA of .250. Averaged 4.72 runs per game. Beat a team called Miss State for the title

But their team ERA of 2.55 carried them to a title

[BeardoMSU]

Amani officially coming back.

[BigDawg81]

It feels like Nixon will sign a FA deal

[BrunswickDawg]

Amani officially coming back.

I think this is an under-rated win. He could have an RJ Yeager like season this year - plus stealing 20 bases.

[confucius say]

Not many people thought Larry would be back last month.
That's like getting a solid portal addition.
Old wins

[Commercecomet24]

I didn't say it was only about pitching.
But it is primarily about pitching.

Every coach in America will tell you that pitching is the most important aspect of your club. Always has been, always will be.

I was talking to a college head coach about having enough pitching and he made this profound statement. He said "Yeah never heard anyone say we lost a series because we didn't have enough left fielders!"

And as Earl Weaver said "If you aint got pitching you ain't got squat!"

And yes you do have to have functional offense and defense but everything in this game starts on the mound.

[Saltydog]

Absolutely. Glad he's coming back. He had a decent year and I would expect him to be better next year.