NCAA Baseball Transfer Portal

[BeardoMSU]

Well, while we are certainly a baseball blue blood- some people need to realize no matter who our coach is- if certain teams want certain players- we are going to lose most of those battles. The rest of the SEC prioritizing baseball also is simply making it harder for us than it used to be. Our best teams have always had a few stars with a bunch of blue-collars. I don’t see us having the crazy amounts of draft picks like LSU, Vandy, or Tenn having. LSU had 13 drafted, Tenn 8, Vandy 7.

No matter who coaches us- we aren’t going to have draft classes of 8-10 players

Very true.

[Todd4State]

Had we not pissed away that '21 championship by sitting on our lazy asses and we'd been competing, we could get anyone. We can handle the money rush. It's not just the money. Holman has a massive offer from us. But he seems to like Yeskie and LSU is winning. I'd say let's wait and see. It's not over. It's just a battle for the only legit arm available.

Not sure if this means anything or not but it appears to me as if he is taking his visits geographically. Cary, NC to Knoxville, Knoxville to Starkville, Starkville to Baton Rouge.

Maybe we can get him to visit again on the way home.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Had we not pissed away that '21 championship by sitting on our lazy asses and we'd been competing, we could get anyone. We can handle the money rush. It's not just the money. Holman has a massive offer from us. But he seems to like Yeskie and LSU is winning. I'd say let's wait and see. It's not over. It's just a battle for the only legit arm available.

When you are last place, recruiting is harder and more expensive. Should have been Portal Hunting this hard in 2021. Should have gotten the fat boy from Samford. But with a message of "open arms for top talent" many kids would have jumped to be the new Bednar, MacLeod, or replace Sims as the closer - in 2021.

But there will be a Holman and Skenes next year too. The best future recruiting in July 2024 is winning and having electric atmospheres at DNF in Spring 2024. Just being decent will do wonders for future portal work.

Plus, if Parker can cut team ERA 25 to 37% in one season, that's a great selling point too.

[BigDawg81]

Not sure if this means anything or not but it appears to me as if he is taking his visits geographically. Cary, NC to Knoxville, Knoxville to Starkville, Starkville to Baton Rouge.

Maybe we can get him to visit again on the way home.

I hear that Auburn is in the mix too. When he visits Tuesday, make him shut it down and don?t take those visits. Honestly, he is more important to this team than Montgomery.

[Really Clark?]

Tenn, Us, LSU and probably Auburn is Holoman's schedule for visits. LSU was behind other schools until they hired Yeski, that has put them in good position.

We are still on some other arms but they are below Holoman level. If we lose out on him, get the next best starter we can and bolster our pen with as much depth as possible. Circle back on Burns after / if we get Montgomery.

[Coach34]

I hear that Auburn is in the mix too. When he visits Tuesday, make him shut it down and don?t take those visits. Honestly, he is more important to this team than Montgomery.

I agree but I would guess we are running 3rd right now

[sack07]

One of the reasons Montgomery is in the portal is to find more opportunities on the mound.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We won the CWS being 8th or 9th in the SEC in runs scored. Our problem has been pitching and everybody knows it

No no no, you don't get to say we have a lot of talent and the only issue has been lack of pitching. Offense matters. Defense matters. Yes you can be middle of the pack in one if you elevate in the postseason and still win it all (see OM '22), but the total team talent matters too. The final 4 teams in Omaha were national seeds. Why? Because they had talent in their lineups and on the mound and you have to score runs AND pitch AND play D to win it all.

If you have talent in your lineup, the offense will produce. Just like if you have talent on the mound, the ERA will reflect that. You don't get to just say "10th placed offense and 14th placed defense are fine, we just need to improve on the mound because that was 14th".

I understand WHY you're saying that- so you can pin all blame on Fox. But Lemo has let every aspect of this team crumble and it's getting worse the more of his players we get to campus

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

One of the reasons Montgomery is in the portal is to find more opportunities on the mound.

I mean he pitched 12 innings and had an ERA of 15... he sounds like a reverse Zack Greinke

[Coach34]

No no no, you don't get to say we have a lot of talent and the only issue has been lack of pitching. Offense matters. Defense matters. Yes you can be middle of the pack in one if you elevate in the postseason and still win it all (see OM '22), but the total team talent matters too. The final 4 teams in Omaha were national seeds. Why? Because they had talent in their lineups and on the mound and you have to score runs AND pitch AND play D to win it all.

If you have talent in your lineup, the offense will produce. Just like if you have talent on the mound, the ERA will reflect that. You don't get to just say "10th placed offense and 14th placed defense are fine, we just need to improve on the mound because that was 14th".

I understand WHY you're saying that- so you can pin all blame on Fox. But Lemo has let every aspect of this team crumble and it's getting worse the more of his players we get to campus

We were tied for 5th in the SEC in fielding and 5th in BA in 2022- so why did we finish dead last in the conference?

[confucius say]

We were tied for 5th in the SEC in fielding and 5th in BA in 2022- so why did we finish dead last in the conference?

Bc we were last in pitching would be my guess.

We were middle of the pack offensively and won a national title. Baseball is about pitching. That's why state, Mississippi, and lsu won it - dominant pitching when it mattered.

It's also fair to say 2023 defense was an anomaly given our defense in 2019, 2021, and 2022. Just like 2022 defense for lsu was an anomaly when they finished last in fielding.

Fix the pitching and everything else will fall into place.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I mean he pitched 12 innings and had an ERA of 15... he sounds like a reverse Zack Greinke

We have Roster Cats without All American Hitting that only pitch, with poor numbers too.

But Montgomery actually pitched well in their Regional. 2 or 3 good innings versus Texas A&M. They desperately needed quality innings and they got it.

https://www.secsports.com/boxscore/baseball/401551131

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We were tied for 5th in the SEC in fielding and 5th in BA in 2022- so why did we finish dead last in the conference?

Pitching was awful. But I love how you have to cherry pick a stat like BA because the overall offensive stat that does matter (scoring) isn't favorable to your case.

But lets take your point: We were decent on offense, good on defense, and so bad on the mound we finished 14th. So what did Lemo do? Lemo let the pitching somehow get worse, let the defense turn into the worst in the conference, and let the offense be sub average. After finishing 14th, Lemonis' way of fixing the team meant we finished 13th.

It's pretty clear we've got problems other than Fox, and Lemo doesn't know how to fix them.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We have Roster Cats without All American Hitting that only pitch, with poor numbers too.

But Montgomery actually pitched well in their Regional. 2 or 3 good innings versus Texas A&M. They desperately needed quality innings and they got it.

https://www.secsports.com/boxscore/baseball/401551131

Maybe he can I've only glaced at the stats. I saw Kendall Rogers say he throws 97 so he's got potential.

Either way, of he wants to both go to a big time program AND pitch, I'm not sure what better landing than us there is. He knows we were awful there and by now he can see we haven't brought in enough Portal arms to deny him opportunities

[Cooterpoot]

Pitching was awful. But I love how you have to cherry pick a stat like BA because the overall offensive stat that does matter (scoring) isn't favorable to your case.

But lets take your point: We were decent on offense, good on defense, and so bad on the mound we finished 14th. So what did Lemo do? Lemo let the pitching somehow get worse, let the defense turn into the worst in the conference, and let the offense be sub average. After finishing 14th, Lemonis' way of fixing the team meant we finished 13th.

It's pretty clear we've got problems other than Fox, and Lemo doesn't know how to fix them.

Run rule games will hurt scoring. We got run ruled what? 10 games? That's a lot of innings without ABs.
When you lead the world in walks, it puts your defense in a bad spot. Almost half our errors were two players.
We were 8th in fielding in '21. Not like we were great.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Bc we were last in pitching would be my guess.

We were middle of the pack offensively and won a national title. Baseball is about pitching. That's why state, Mississippi, and lsu won it - dominant pitching when it mattered.

It's also fair to say 2023 defense was an anomaly given our defense in 2019, 2021, and 2022. Just like 2022 defense for lsu was an anomaly when they finished last in fielding.

Fix the pitching and everything else will fall into place.

Odd how actual coaches disagree with you about offense. Of course it matters! MLB drafts position players and gives huge contracts to them. College coaches use NIL on position players. To say "baseball is about pitching" is to say "Jay Johnson was an idiot for using NIL to get Tommy White". It's to say "we shouldn't have bothered to upgrade Alford at 3B".

Pitching is super important, nobody is denying that. But to make a statement like "baseball is about pitching" is just... man it's ignorant. It's like saying 3 ppibt shooting in basketball doesn't matter if you play good defense. It's like saying your defensive line doesn't matter if you have good LBs. It's like saying you don't need to know how to manage money if you have a high income.

The TEAM has issues. The TEAM needs to be improved.

[Coach34]

Bc we were last in pitching would be my guess.

We were middle of the pack offensively and won a national title. Baseball is about pitching. That's why state, Mississippi, and lsu won it - dominant pitching when it mattered.

It's also fair to say 2023 defense was an anomaly given our defense in 2019, 2021, and 2022. Just like 2022 defense for lsu was an anomaly when they finished last in fielding.

Fix the pitching and everything else will fall into place.

Exactly


LSU was 12th in the SEC in fielding this season- turned out ok for them

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Run rule games will hurt scoring. We got run ruled what? 10 games? That's a lot of innings without ABs.
When you lead the world in walks, it puts your defense in a bad spot. Almost half our errors were two players.
We were 8th in fielding in '21. Not like we were great.

Unreal how far some of yall with twist yourselves into a logic knot to pin all blame on Fox and say all is well. Getting blown the F out = a defense for the offense, wow.

And no, getting run ruled doesn't say what you think it does. Say you're a coach and your team's up 14-3. Do you put in your best reliever like you would in a close game? No. You bring in your 10+ ERA guy in case tomorrows game is close. Then if tomorrows game is a blowout too (in either direction) , you dont ride your good pitchers hard. Maybe just let them get some work in but not more than that. SO, I'd argue our offense saw worse pitching than SEC average due to those blowouts. Moreover, getting run ruled = less opportunities for errors. No, it's not true that Alford and Forsythe were the only issues on D. And even if they were, it's on Lemo for having those be the best we had available.

[Cowbell]

Turns out there were no secret portal guys. Just secret hopes. Lemon doing his best Cohen expression with the hype...what irony...

[Todd4State]

Exactly


LSU was 12th in the SEC in fielding this season- turned out ok for them

I have a personal saying. I've seen bad hitting and fielding teams win championships. I've never seen a bad pitching team win one.