The dugout dust-up....

Originally Posted by No BS Dawg

If there was any swinging, I?m sure they were all misses. No sarcastrics on purpose.

“I don’t know Barry, seems Hines may be carrying his left a little low. May hurt him in the later rounds…”

Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Why not?

That's what I keep wondering. He's been to the CWS twice in 5 years at a school that doesn't put that much into baseball and just beat LSU 2/3. That's darn sure better than we're going to do this weekend. He knows Starkville, he knows the SEC and this is home.

Sorry don?t want Butch

Originally Posted by sandjunky

Sorry don?t want Butch

Who do you want that would come take over this cluster f??

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Who do you want that would come take over this cluster f??

If our fans will support NIL, any competent coach will have us in the hosting conversation next year. The days of long rebuilds are over.

Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

I don't think he would be on anyone's list if he hadn't coached here before. How many people wanting Butch would know his name had he not been on staff here? He would be a solid 3rd or 4th option.

I would usually agree with this sentiment, but in his case, he HAS gone to Omaha twice at school that is usually a league bottom feeder. Obviously him being a former coach at State plays a factor, but its not unearned.

Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

I don't think he would be on anyone's list if he hadn't coached here before. How many people wanting Butch would know his name had he not been on staff here? He would be a solid 3rd or 4th option.

He would be known as much as anyone knows other head coaches names.

I haven't done the research to know the exact number, but I would guess there are VERY few active coaches at programs clearly below ours that have taken their team to the CWS twice. Auburn is an extremely difficult job.

Who else has that on their resume... Other than Bianco?

Not that he's necessarily the best choice, but we could do FAR worse and likely will not hire someone as accomplished as Butch.

Butch is in Y7 at Auburn- missed the tourney his 1st season and in 2021. Will likely make the tourney for 5th time this year with 2 CWS appearances and a Super.

We almost assuredly will not hire someone with that kind of a resume other than him. He is 52 tho and I would prefer someone a little younger

Originally Posted by Coach34

Butch is in Y7 at Auburn- missed the tourney his 1st season and in 2021. Will likely make the tourney for 5th time this year with 2 CWS appearances and a Super.

We almost assuredly will not hire someone with that kind of a resume other than him. He is 52 tho and I would prefer someone a little younger

Yeah people acting like Butch wouldn't be a good hire are mistaken. The dude is putting up results at Auburn, which is one of the worst jobs in the SEC.

He wouldn't be my first call, but he's on the list

Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Yeah people acting like Butch wouldn't be a good hire are mistaken. The dude is putting up results at Auburn, which is one of the worst jobs in the SEC.

He wouldn't be my first call, but he's on the list

I think Butch would be good but he's not the best hire.

Originally Posted by Coach34

Butch is in Y7 at Auburn- missed the tourney his 1st season and in 2021. Will likely make the tourney for 5th time this year with 2 CWS appearances and a Super.

We almost assuredly will not hire someone with that kind of a resume other than him. He is 52 tho and I would prefer someone a little younger

Seriously I don't know what's wrong with people. They come across as Texas fans in the early 2010s thinking they could hire Saban from Bama.

We have great fans, great facilities, and a good history. We have mediocre NIL. Our program needs to be built back up. We are a good landing spot, but not so good as to distinguish ourselves from a Vandy, A&M, etc and lure their coach away. That leaves mid majors, assistants, and Butch as the best options.

Butch is making Omaha 1 out of every 3 years at a school that has no fan support, worse facilities, no tradition, and I can't imagine their boosters are supporting Baseball NIL more than us. He SHOULD be able to have more success here. But even a 50% Supers or Omaha rate of success is great, and that's what he's doing there.

Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If our fans will support NIL, any competent coach will have us in the hosting conversation next year. The days of long rebuilds are over.

Our fans aren't supporting it. Even diehards on here won't. We have the worst nil fanbase in the league.

Also, Butch has never won a game in Omaha, has never had more than 16 sec wins, and is about to finish .500 or worse in sec for 5th time in 7 years with a bunch of 4th and 5th year guys.

But maybe that's the best we could do given where we are now and our lack of nil

Is there anyway to know our total NIL and the breakdown per sport?

Well if we are going by resumes (re Butch) the guy we have now won a national championship 2 years ago. And Verne Troyer up the road won one last year, would any of you want him?

Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

I don't think he would be on anyone's list if he hadn't coached here before. How many people wanting Butch would know his name had he not been on staff here? He would be a solid 3rd or 4th option.

He?s taken auburn to multiple cws. Don?t be silly buddy. He?s well known and well liked

Some of you have gotten so singularly focused on one candidate, Haier, that you cannot open yourself up to other possibilities. It is very likely Haier would prefer to stay at Campbell over come here. I do not think some of you realize the shit we are about to eat in the coaching world for firing a coach 2 years removed from a national championship. This is not football where schools are raking in 100 mil plus each and every year.

Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Is there anyway to know our total NIL and the breakdown per sport?

No school would be stupid enough to release that to anyone not donating 7 figures minimum. You do not let that get out to the general public and have it be used against them in recruiting.

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Some of you have gotten so singularly focused on one candidate, Haier, that you cannot open yourself up to other possibilities. It is very likely Haier would prefer to stay at Campbell over come here. I do not think some of you realize the shit we are about to eat in the coaching world for firing a coach 2 years removed from a national championship. This is not football where schools are raking in 100 mil plus each and every year.

Disagree about coaching world turning a nose

If we had been competitive, yes, I would agree

Most reasonable coaches would look at this and say - Lemonis shit the bed given where he started

Butch would be option 4 or 5 for me.

Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Is there anyway to know our total NIL and the breakdown per sport?

I would venture to say that our Baseball NIL is probably better than 90% of NCAA and middle of SEC.