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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceWranglerDawg View Post
    SOME are willing to help, a lot are not. One major donor told me he won't give another dollar to anything NIL related because "it's a waste of money," and I agree. Nobody knows what or where their dollars are going, and honestly, my limited funds are not going to be donated to some random NIL deal...
    Then do not ever complain if we lose a game, recruit, coach, etc. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. You have chosen the former and that is completely within your rights. It is your money and you can spend it however you see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Then do not ever complain if we lose a game, recruit, coach, etc. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. You have chosen the former and that is completely within your rights. It is your money and you can spend it however you see fit.
    I will. I have earned that right. The solution is to change it. It's not your "either or" framing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    I will. I have earned that right. The solution is to change it. It's not your "either or" framing.
    How have you earned that right? You are doing nothing to address the situation and you could. The cat is out of the bag with NIL. It is NEVER going back. And hell, everyone needs to stop acting like paying players was not going on long before NIL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    How have you earned that right? You are doing nothing to address the situation and you could. The cat is out of the bag with NIL. It is NEVER going back. And hell, everyone needs to stop acting like paying players was not going on long before NIL.
    Gave my money! That's how. No sir. The amount that is now going out the door and windows is no where near the same or our recruiting would not be suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    How have you earned that right? You are doing nothing to address the situation and you could. The cat is out of the bag with NIL. It is NEVER going back. And hell, everyone needs to stop acting like paying players was not going on long before NIL.
    Paying players is true. But there was no portal back then. The transfer portal screws things up to me. Who wants to pay a player only to possibly watch him leave the next year for another big pay day. If players want to be paid, then maybe they should sign contracts. If they leave early, they only get paid for time served. Just spitballing but something needs to be done. I only think the portal is good for guys who can’t see the field and just looking for another opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg View Post
    Paying players is true. But there was no portal back then. The transfer portal screws things up to me. Who wants to pay a player only to possibly watch him leave the next year for another big pay day. If players want to be paid, then maybe they should sign contracts. If they leave early, they only get paid for time served. Just spitballing but something needs to be done. I only think the portal is good for guys who can’t see the field and just looking for another opportunity.
    There is no doubt that something needs to be done. The 1 year sit out rule should be reinstated and the portal issue would go away. That being said, we have to play the NIL game to be semi competitive in the mean time. There’s just no way around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    How have you earned that right? You are doing nothing to address the situation and you could. The cat is out of the bag with NIL. It is NEVER going back. And hell, everyone needs to stop acting like paying players was not going on long before NIL.
    Did YOU pay Dak, or Josh Robinson, or Preston Smith? I bet your were screaming just like everybody else when Georgia Tech was pushing our shit in.

    Don't give us that crap that you aren't a real fan if you aren't contributing to NIL. Those 60,000 in the stands, those hundreds of thousands of eyeballs, those kids buying jerseys are ALL fans and help the team in a variety of ways and have just as much right to support, bitch, complain or whatever else they want to do as much as the guy that was slipping hundreds to Doug Buckles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyDog View Post
    Did YOU pay Dak, or Josh Robinson, or Preston Smith? I bet your were screaming just like everybody else when Georgia Tech was pushing our shit in.

    Don't give us that crap that you aren't a real fan if you aren't contributing to NIL. Those 60,000 in the stands, those hundreds of thousands of eyeballs, those kids buying jerseys are ALL fans and help the team in a variety of ways and have just as much right to support, bitch, complain or whatever else they want to do as much as the guy that was slipping hundreds to Doug Buckles.
    This is America. Of course they have the right. They look like a complete jackass when they willingly turn their nose up at the best possible way to help the program and then bitch at the coach for not getting good players, but yea, they have the right. And in 2014 it was against the rules and a lot of people didn't want to take the chance of being sloppy and hurting the program or getting their name in the paper and losing their job. That's not the case any more. Apples to oranges comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    I will. I have earned that right. The solution is to change it. It's not your "either or" framing.
    You have earned the right to complain about the system. If you are not giving to NIL, you certainly have not earned the right to criticize our coaching staff and recruiting efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Then do not ever complain if we lose a game, recruit, coach, etc. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. You have chosen the former and that is completely within your rights. It is your money and you can spend it however you see fit.
    You're exactly right. I spend enough money with Mississippi State, and don't care to spend anymore. I've been through enough to "qualify" myself as a fan with emotional investment. My immediately family has 7 degrees from Mississippi State, we own real estate there, still have family that live there. We've done plenty.

    They seem to consistently have a knack at pissing away opportunities, so I feel as if my earned money is better spent elsewhere.

    But for what it's worth, we're not giving money to my wife's alma mater (USC) either. We're an "equal opportunity non-NIL-donator"

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