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    NIL

    I hate it as much as anyone and I know some will roll their eyes at this but, we have had some programs really tampering and taking some swings at our guys again. More money than even sounds believable. Idk what the solution is but we have all allowed it. This is not what they said it was.

    If you can join Bulldog Initiative do it. I will never talk down to anyone who doesnt bc I more than understand. Whether it?s necessary or you just dont want to give up your money I get it either way.

    But dont let anyone fool you, we are having to fend off some big swings. 4 million was an offer here recently. Some of our leaders have turned it down bc it was the right thing and some have made us up the ante. I would never want to coach big time college football ever at this point.

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    It's not strictly NIL across the land and it happened quickly. So much has become pay for play. I give my bit only because it's the hand we've been dealt. Don't like it, don't agree with it but it is what it is until someone intervenes and restores control of college athletics.

    And I will add to the bit I'm giving just as soon as we deal with matters at hand within our own program.

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    Our fan base is going to have to adjust expectations if we can't fundraise tens of millions of dollars for NIL. That's what it's going to take to stay where we are. We are going to be organ donors to the rich teams that can afford our players, especially the ones that can plug and play and we won't be able to consistently secure top high school talent without NIL.

    I think we will see a regression back to averaging classes between 30-35 soon. We play SEC ball and put kids in the NFL, but cash is king and kids are going to be paid a lot of money to make bad decisions.

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    I will be pleasantly surprised if Tolu is on our roster Sept 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    I will be pleasantly surprised if Tolu is on our roster Sept 1
    This is why I won't be putting any money in. If I pay some player to stay and he still walks. Nah, not for me. I also won't complain when we suck. I'll just go fishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    I will be pleasantly surprised if Tolu is on our roster Sept 1
    yeah he is gonna get some big offers
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I hate it as much as anyone and I know some will roll their eyes at this but, we have had some programs really tampering and taking some swings at our guys again. More money than even sounds believable. Idk what the solution is but we have all allowed it. This is not what they said it was.

    If you can join Bulldog Initiative do it. I will never talk down to anyone who doesnt bc I more than understand. Whether it?s necessary or you just dont want to give up your money I get it either way.

    But dont let anyone fool you, we are having to fend off some big swings. 4 million was an offer here recently. Some of our leaders have turned it down bc it was the right thing and some have made us up the ante. I would never want to coach big time college football ever at this point.
    I know the player... Who made the offer base?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    But dont let anyone fool you, we are having to fend off some big swings. 4 million was an offer here recently. Some of our leaders have turned it down bc it was the right thing and some have made us up the ante. I would never want to coach big time college football ever at this point.
    Sorry guys, but if one of our players can get $4 million from another team, then they would be foolish to not accept. I know my maroon-n-white blooded self would be gone yesterday. Additionally, if NIL is trending that way at an exponential rate, it's over for us until sanity returns. But I'm not begrudging anyone for not accepting $4 mil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WSOPdawg View Post
    Sorry guys, but if one of our players can get $4 million from another team, then they would be foolish to not accept. I know my maroon-n-white blooded self would be gone yesterday. Additionally, if NIL is trending that way at an exponential rate, it's over for us until sanity returns. But I'm not begrudging anyone for not accepting $4 mil.
    Generational $ if managed correctly. I love MSU athletics but if I have cash at the end of the month it's going to sponsor a kid that can't eat at night.

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    Ain't nobody getting $4MM. Tulu will be here too. And just joining BI isn't good enough. You have to earmark it to football. Stop pissing away money on baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein View Post
    Generational $ if managed correctly. I love MSU athletics but if I have cash at the end of the month it's going to sponsor a kid that can't eat at night.
    Amen !! Won’t nor will I join BI, for those of you that do good on you. Compassion International is a wonderful organization and have recently picked up our second child, the first one just graduated the program and going to Nursing school.

    Paying college players is a personal choice not an obligation, win or lose Hail State, my saturdays and weekends are not wrecked or made by 20 year old “student” athletes. Good on them for maximizing while they can. The days of old are over as is Amateur Athletics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Stop pissing away money on baseball.
    Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Ain't nobody getting $4MM. Tulu will be here too. And just joining BI isn't good enough. You have to earmark it to football. Stop pissing away money on baseball.
    Wellllll

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    And next time y'all want to bang on will, feel free to do so but know that he turned down nearly 10 times what he is getting to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    And next time y'all want to bang on will, feel free to do so but know that he turned down nearly 10 times what he is getting to stay.
    Bang bang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    I know the player... Who made the offer base?
    A Florida school

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    And next time y'all want to bang on will, feel free to do so but know that he turned down nearly 10 times what he is getting to stay.
    If true Will should have left for his payday. He's not an NFL quarterback who will be drafted unless something changes tremendously this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    If true Will should have left for his payday. He's not an NFL quarterback who will be drafted unless something changes tremendously this year.
    I hate to agree with you, but if he is getting 150K to stay here and someone offered him 1.5 million or more to play QB in the SEC, as much as it makes me appreciate his love for MSU, i have to question the decision making.

    Even after taxes you are talking about close to a million dollars, for someone whos is 21 years old which if properly managed can create generational wealth for him and his family.

    I hope it all works out for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I hate it as much as anyone and I know some will roll their eyes at this but, we have had some programs really tampering and taking some swings at our guys again. More money than even sounds believable. Idk what the solution is but we have all allowed it. This is not what they said it was.

    If you can join Bulldog Initiative do it. I will never talk down to anyone who doesnt bc I more than understand. Whether it?s necessary or you just dont want to give up your money I get it either way.

    But dont let anyone fool you, we are having to fend off some big swings. 4 million was an offer here recently. Some of our leaders have turned it down bc it was the right thing and some have made us up the ante. I would never want to coach big time college football ever at this point.
    The common fan is doing what they can do, for the most part in my opinion. We need our big boosters to step up and play ball the way they are in basketball and baseball. We can get on here and make the little guy feel like they need to choose between paying the mortgage or keeping a DT, or the people who can donate a couple hundred thousand / millions without blinking an eye can do what other schools big boys are doing. I'm not directing this at you, particularly.

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    Until State drops down to 1AA I?ll start going to more high school games on Friday nights. No way a school with no Law School or Medical School sitting in one of the most rural parts of the state in the poorest state in the country can play the game at that level. One our biggest donors in history just gave $100 Million to the Institution and as far as we know 0 is earmarked for athletics.

    If we cannot get Simmons, Jones, Prescott, Slay, Smith, Papelbon, Renfroe, Graveman, etc?. To give large sums of money for MSU athletics, how can we get accountants, bankers, school teachers, social workers, programmers, farmers and agronomists to give to athletics?

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