Bruce Pearl and opportunities

[mjh94]

disclaimer: Not meant to beat dead horse, Bruce Pearl may/may not be a douche bag, I support Rick Ray, Auburn is Auburn, we are MSU.

I was listening to Mike & Mike this morning on the the WWL, and they had a 5-10 minute spot with Bruce Pearl in studio. I couldn't help but to be sick at my stomach just thinking if everytime he said Auburn, what if it was Mississippi State instead. In saying that... I fully support Rick Ray and what he is doing/trying to do for our basketball team. In this day and age, having a coach is not just about having a coach - it's about having a coach AND having a show. Obviously you don't want a shit-show, but a legit Seinfeld type of show. And obviously there are alot of intangibles that go with that. And, I know if it was anybody else that got hired by Auburn, this interview would have never happened.

But, damn... Auburn just hired, by all accounts, an excellent coach that is a Seinfeld show. He knows how to market the University, market the other sports (shit, he mentioned the football program and Malzahn as much as he referred to basketball), and he knows how to "recruit" while he can't recruit on (inter)national radio. Obviously he had that opportunity because of past downfalls and because of who he is. But, next time we have to hire a coach, even if he is half of a Seinfeld show, that would be a great start. I hope Stricklin is taking notes and understands it's not all about "being an excellent assistant that everybody and their momma said to hire." I mean damn.. we've got some decent recent history in men's basketball. Prove Stricklin to be smart, Rick. Today's athletics are cut-throat if you're going to please your fans. Take the opportunities out there is all i'm sayin.

[C222]

disclaimer: Not meant to beat dead horse, Bruce Pearl may/may not be a douche bag, I support Rick Ray, Auburn is Auburn, we are MSU.

I was listening to Mike & Mike this morning on the the WWL, and they had a 5-10 minute spot with Bruce Pearl in studio. I couldn't help but to be sick at my stomach just thinking if everytime he said Auburn, what if it was Mississippi State instead. In saying that... I fully support Rick Ray and what he is doing/trying to do for our basketball team. In this day and age, having a coach is not just about having a coach - it's about having a coach AND having a show. Obviously you don't want a shit-show, but a legit Seinfeld type of show. And obviously there are alot of intangibles that go with that. And, I know if it was anybody else that got hired by Auburn, this interview would have never happened.

But, damn... Auburn just hired, by all accounts, an excellent coach that is a Seinfeld show. He knows how to market the University, market the other sports (shit, he mentioned the football program and Malzahn as much as he referred to basketball), and he knows how to "recruit" while he can't recruit on (inter)national radio. Obviously he had that opportunity because of past downfalls and because of who he is. But, next time we have to hire a coach, even if he is half of a Seinfeld show, that would be a great start. I hope Stricklin is taking notes and understands it's not all about "being an excellent assistant that everybody and their momma said to hire." I mean damn.. we've got some decent recent history in men's basketball. Prove Stricklin to be smart, Rick. Today's athletics are cut-throat if you're going to please your fans. Take the opportunities out there is all i'm sayin.

Pearl would never come to MSU. We couldn't even get Rob Jeter.

[thf24]

Pearl would never come to MSU. We couldn't even get Rob Jeter.

That, and even if Stricklin wanted to hire him, which he wouldn't, Keenum wouldn't let him.

It's obviously a great hire for Auburn and I'm sure he'll elevate their program to some degree. I'll believe that he'll achieve the same level of success he did at Tennessee when I see it, though.

[codeDawg]

Pearl would never come to MSU. We couldn't even get Rob Jeter.

This is it. Even if we fired Ray, we would not get Perl.

Believe it or not, Auburn is exactly what Perl was looking for. In an interview done last year Perl said when he got back into it he would go to a school that had won a national championship in some sport. He didn't care if it was basketball because he could take care of that. He needed confidence in the school's administration that they could get done what it took to get there. Also, Perl wanted to stay in the south and recruit Atlanta like he did at TN.

NC + South + Atlanta = Auburn

[Coach34]

Totally agree about us not hiring Pearl- that's not the way our leadership wants to be viewed. Then also add that Auburn started Pearl off at 2.2 million- which is way more than we would pay a basketball coach.

[Dawg61]

Totally agree about us not hiring Pearl- that's not the way our leadership wants to be viewed. Then also add that Auburn started Pearl off at 2.2 million- which is way more than we would pay a basketball coach.

Cause we cheap as ****. Doesn't matter that Pearl will now make them 6x what they pay him every single year. MSU doesn't care about basketball. At all. Stricklin & Keenum don't care about winning. At all.

[tcdog70]

So Keennum wouldn't sign Pearl but He is AOK with a nobody Clemson Asst. Shit, we have some great leadership, I feel warm and fuzzy.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

If Stricklin doesn't see that the return on the investment for a big splash coach would make it worthwhile he needs to go. I am sure Auburn ticket/apparel sales have gone through the roof.

[C222]

So Keennum wouldn't sign Pearl but He is AOK with a nobody Clemson Asst. Shit, we have some great leadership, I feel warm and fuzzy.

Surely you understand why they wouldn't want Pearl, right? Not saying I agree with it but it's not hard to figure out.

[codeDawg]

I don't disagree with the detractors about our strategy, but Perl at MSU was never going to happen in a million years. That salary is only a piece of the puzzle. We can keep the pitchforks in the shed until something realistic gets screwed up (again).

[Johnson85]

Totally agree about us not hiring Pearl- that's not the way our leadership wants to be viewed. Then also add that Auburn started Pearl off at 2.2 million- which is way more than we would pay a basketball coach.

I hope that's not true. I can understand in football where there is some semblance of following the rules. But basketball has been the wild west for a long time. Even Pearl, who by some accounts has had somebody at the NCAA gunning for him since he was at Iowa, only got caught by being a complete dubmass. And while his players had some incidents at UT, I don't remember them being viewed as a shit show.

I can understand why we might not want to pay $2.2M for a coach that might bring NCAA scrutiny, but if they really wouldn't have offered him $1.5M had he been available when we were looking, then we need a new administration.

[smootness]

MSU doesn't care about basketball. At all. Stricklin & Keenum don't care about winning. At all.

Yep, you nailed it. Right on, as always.

[hacker]

perl

Mixing up programming languages and coaches' names again, I see?

[tcdog70]

Well, we took a chance on Jackie and it turned out pretty damn skippy. Pearl lied, shit Jackie had more baggage.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

Totally agree about us not hiring Pearl- that's not the way our leadership wants to be viewed. Then also add that Auburn started Pearl off at 2.2 million- which is way more than we would pay a basketball coach.

Why do you think that's way more anyway? Andy Kennedy is getting paid 1.8+ now.

[mjh94]

excellent point.

Well, we took a chance on Jackie and it turned out pretty damn skippy. Pearl lied, shit Jackie had more baggage.

[Coach34]

Why do you think that's way more anyway? Andy Kennedy is getting paid 1.8+ now.

Stands last year he made about 1.4-1.5 with bonuses. 2.2 is around 1/3 more than that. That would be a big jump for us and our budget.

Then you have to factor in asst salaries. We've always been pretty cheap there too. Stepping up to a bigger name coach would most likely require a raise to secure assts that he wanted. Basically you are looking at spending another million bucks in just basketball salary.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

If Stricklin cheaps out on the next hire (this is assuming Rick Ray does not produce...not getting into whether he will or not) I don't know if I will be able to show any amount of enthusiasm for the basketball program.

[Dawg61]

Stands last year he made about 1.4-1.5 with bonuses. 2.2 is around 1/3 more than that. That would be a big jump for us and our budget.

Then you have to factor in asst salaries. We've always been pretty cheap there too. Stepping up to a bigger name coach would most likely require a raise to secure assts that he wanted. Basically you are looking at spending another million bucks in just basketball salary.

Great and we'd make 6x what we spend with a coach like Pearl. Ok maybe only 5x.

[Coach34]

Great and we'd make 6x what we spend with a coach like Pearl. Ok maybe only 5x.

And how would we do this?

We would only make about 1.5 million on ticket sales if we sell out every seat at every home game at the Hump (minus student tickets of course)