Where does Supahstar Davonte Pollard go now?

[Goat from MSU]

Now this thread will turn fun . You will have engie and Coach34 on your ass now. Fun times ahead stay tune.

I already know the story on Ray. This ain't baseball.

How exactly do you think Ray will get the best basketball prospect in the nation, given that up until now, he's never been capable of signing even a 4-star prospect?

What does 18 games mean? I seem to recall being lectured about how 20 games doesn't mean squat anymore. You get 13 for showing up and having a scholarship program in the SEC. What so that means he wins 4 or 5 more games against a bunch of horrible SEC teams...so that's gonna be real progress after 3 years? For basketball? Or do we have a special category of progress for Rick "the assistant" Ray?

We won 17 or more games in 12 of 14 seasons before Ray, so I sure hope the Rick "the assistant" Ray can get 18 against a putrid SEC West in year 3.

[Coach66]

It may not be hot but it is warm . Ray needs to win at least 18 games next year or sign Newman. By the way I hope Ray gets it done , if not I hire Bob Marlin at least he going to the Big Dance this year ,he should have been hired 2 years ago but that is water under the bridge. Have you seen Daniels play before ,I wonder if anyone on this board seen him in person.

basketball championship games at MSU. Skillet is a fierce competitor.

[engie]

I already know the story on Ray.

Just like you already know the concrete of Dudy Noble is sacred and untouchable...

You don't know anything about Ray yet. Nobody does that is being "fair" to him. Next year, we will begin to.

What I do know is that Ray is seriously in the game with Newman now(even the Ray haters/Stans lovers with a clue will tell you this). He locks up Malik, you don't think that would have a lingering "Nkemdiche effect" in recruiting for us? And you don't think that'd be enough with 4 good seniors and a couple of good JRs with tons of experience and a few more pieces to really make a run in 16? He's literally that ONE player away from making a bunch of you into fools.

You'd think with the new news on Newman -- people would wise up and let it play out. But I guess not..

[Goat from MSU]

Grew up with him and his brother in Tupelo. He would have been a good hire here ,not fancy but would gotten the job done here..

basketball championship games at MSU. Skillet is a fierce competitor.

[Coach34]

How exactly do you think Ray will get the best basketball prospect in the nation, given that up until now, he's never been capable of signing even a 4-star prospect?

We won 17 or more games in 12 of 14 seasons before Ray, so I sure hope the Rick "the assistant" Ray can get 18 against a putrid SEC West in year 3.

1) Actually he has- we wouldnt have Elijah Staley without Ray. He is a 4-star basketball player and will be suiting up after the bowl game (damn it feels good to be able to type "after the bowl game" because we know we are going to one)

2) There is no more SEC West hoss. Try to keep up

3) As mentioned in #2- there is no more SEC West to feast on, and we play a complete schedule. We also play 2 more conference games than we did under Stands- instead of getting 2 more easy wins. Having to play more East teams would have hurt the ol Stands legacy for sure. And I'll remind you that Stands was the only SEC coach to vote for doing away with the divisions- he knew where his bread was buttered.

[Sandman14]

this is hilarious. I love it that you guys have to try and defend an absolute train wreck. it would be one thing if we had won about 17 games this year. but we were the worst in the SEC. great fun to watch you guys scramble around to come up with shitty, erroneous, illogical arguments about how it is reasonable that we have finished dead last in the SEC this year.

life ain't "fair," engie. get over it. this is about being a winner vs. being a loser.

and what are these new arguments about something that hasn't happened? did I miss where newman committed to us? IF Ray signs the top 5 players in the country, we'll be damn good! love it...except one little problem...Rick "the assistant" Ray can't recruit! Can't coach, and can't recruit. Tough combo. we had a guy who could recruit but couldn't coach and we ran him off for a guy who can do neither.

[Sandman14]

wouldn't have elijah staley...that is the crummiest argument I've ever heard. keep going. this is fun.

[Coach34]

wouldn't have elijah staley...that is the crummiest argument I've ever heard. keep going. this is fun.

Are you just an embecile? Ray had a relationship with Staley and his family and brought Mullen in the fold. And even then, Staley only signed with us because he was promised that he could play basketball for Ray.

[Coach34]

we had a guy who could recruit but couldn't coach

1st smart thing you have said today- congrats

[bully99]

Yancy saying the Bears are recruiting Pollard.

[Raytoraid83]

Oliver Back had an offer from Oklahoma (currently a 5 seed) and Wichita State (#1 ranked team in the country). But what do they know.

A very high profile coach in Jackson said Black isn't good enough but what does he know?

[C222]

A very high profile coach in Jackson said Black isn't good enough but what does he know?

One of the best college coaches in the country thinks he's good enough. I will go with him.

[smootness]

The radio interview with Horatio Webster in February was interesting, too - it was the first time he has stated that if it were up to him, Malik would end up at State.

I trust that he'll let his kid make up his own mind and that by no means are we a 'favorite', but if your dad played at a school, you grew up close to that school and go back there a decent amount, and you know that your dad would like for you to play there, that's definitely going to pull you there in some way.

Add to that the fact that Ray continues to work his butt off recruiting the kid, and you have to think we're in the game. No way would Ray continue to spend that much time if he got the sense it was all pointless. He knows that if he gets Newman, it's like cutting 3 years off the rebuild.

[engie]

A very high profile coach in Jackson said Black isn't good enough but what does he know?

They said the same thing about a former SEC freshman of the year after his JR year of highschool...

Let's keep in mind that Black played his SR season at IMG Academy in Florida -- not in MS -- where he played great competition, received great instruction, and took some tremendous steps forward according to the coach down there.

But keep "very high profile coach in Jackson" trusting a coach in Jackson over a coach at an undefeated one-seed.

[Dawg61]

Oliver Back had an offer from Oklahoma (currently a 5 seed) and Wichita State (#1 ranked team in the country). But what do they know.

They both know Florida is the #1 ranked team in the country.

[Johnson85]

The radio interview with Horatio Webster in February was interesting, too - it was the first time he has stated that if it were up to him, Malik would end up at State.

I always assumed he was the one pushing for a big name. Surprising.

Add to that the fact that Ray continues to work his butt off recruiting the kid, and you have to think we're in the game. No way would Ray continue to spend that much time if he got the sense it was all pointless.

I think he'd definitely still spend the time if it was hopeless. Even if you know you're not going to get him, what head coach is going to open himself up to criticism by not recruiting a top 5 national recruit that is a legacy for your school and lives two hours away.

[Madisonmd]

Black does not have signable offers from OK nor WS. He is not that good. Period

[Raytoraid83]

Black does not have signable offers from OK nor WS. He is not that good. Period

But rivals says he has offers from Witchita and Oklahoma?!?!?***

[Political Hack]

Just like you already know the concrete of Dudy Noble is sacred and untouchable...

You don't know anything about Ray yet. Nobody does that is being "fair" to him. Next year, we will begin to.

What I do know is that Ray is seriously in the game with Newman now(even the Ray haters/Stans lovers with a clue will tell you this). He locks up Malik, you don't think that would have a lingering "Nkemdiche effect" in recruiting for us? And you don't think that'd be enough with 4 good seniors and a couple of good JRs with tons of experience and a few more pieces to really make a run in 16? He's literally that ONE player away from making a bunch of you into fools.

You'd think with the new news on Newman -- people would wise up and let it play out. But I guess not..

I want to make sure I understand this... are you suggesting that Rick Ray is one player away from being successful?

[Sandman14]

I want to make sure I understand this... are you suggesting that Rick Ray is one player away from being successful?

the part I thought was funny was how it would cut 3 years off the rebuild. apparently our college basketball job requires a 10-year plan. any thing less would be "unfair."

where is the MSU bulldog pride around here? are you guys settling? first we weren't ok with having an ncaa tournament-type team every year. that was settling. but now we are just being patient. look, sometimes you just have to be. sometimes it takes 7 years at being the worst team in the SEC before the sunshine breaks through the dark clouds.

and frankly, with the mess Stands left (12 out of 14 seasons with 17 or more wins....probably 9 out of 12 were 20+ wins), Rick "the assitant" Ray is probably entitled to 15 years on the rebuild...just to be "fair"