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01-20-2023, 10:46 PM
#101
Originally Posted by
Homedawg
The fact you have no better comeback than that says it all.. just like the crickets on most good posts. Ignore em. I pray Steve allows you back soon so you can take your crap elsewhere. Just be a state fan and let it play out. Odds are this offense will be just like the last one and the one before. 8-4 ish Jimmy's and joes. Not AR or whatever other style offense. Makes no difference. Just be a fan instead of bitching before we ever play a game under the staff
Thank you. Well stated. He wasn't this miserable years ago. This is embarrassing for him.
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01-20-2023, 11:49 PM
#102
Originally Posted by
KB21
Downgraded essentially every offensive coaching position.
Not as bad as your wife downgraded ...
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01-20-2023, 11:55 PM
#103
Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Ok how did we upgrade at WR coach? Spurrier and Drew were ace recruiters and I thought our receivers played really well last year. Kind of hard to break a big one when you have a QB who can't throw 35 yards down the field. It's especially hard to break big ones, when you're having to catch slants with 9 people in the box. I don't blame our coaches for drops, that's on the receivers.
Bumphis has no recruiting ties in the area and he's not known as a good recruiter, and playing in MS doesn't give you recruiting ties in the area. It means you're known at one school. Kids these don't remember Mississippi State WRs from 12 years ago. Also, his receivers at Utah never impressed me. They got ZERO separation in the games I watched them and their blocking was average against teams with a pulse.
Posting shit you have zero knowledge about..
ask Coach Whiitingham how good a coach and recruiter Bump is..
I know for a fact what he would say
Last edited by Ari Gold; 01-21-2023 at 12:01 AM.
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01-20-2023, 11:56 PM
#104
Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
Not as bad as your wife downgraded ...
Pretty sure this is a woman shown by her emotional sensitivity....
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01-21-2023, 07:57 AM
#105
Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
Posting shit you have zero knowledge about..
ask Coach Whiitingham how good a coach and recruiter Bump is..
I know for a fact what he would say
Cussing on a message board. Man you are cool. Did your parents let you stay up late because it was the weekend too?
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01-21-2023, 09:57 AM
#106
Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Cussing on a message board. Man you are cool. Did your parents let you stay up late because it was the weekend too?
Actually I’m really ****ing cool..
All I did was give facts to your false message .
Sorry if that pissed you off.
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01-21-2023, 12:15 PM
#107
Originally Posted by
KB21
A much better staff would have been:
OC - Chris Hatcher
WRs/Passing Game Coordinator - Drew Hollingshead
OL/Run Game Coordinator - Mason Miller
iWR - Adam Shaker
RBs - Trey Tinsley
You?re clueless if you think hollingshead is better than the guy that had his players catching passes in the Rose Bowl 2 years in a row, and will out-recruit anybody on Lane?s staff at Oxford.
Friend/Schmidt will also prove to be better than Miller would have been in this system.
I like that Arnett has the balls to change the offensive philosophy. Anyone that doesn?t get behind that can just moan and pout about it.
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01-21-2023, 12:19 PM
#108
This staff is a really good staff top to bottom.
It's got a combination of experience with youth, familiarity with the SEC, some outside influence, and guys that can recruit.
Arnett did a solid job and yes it looks like some things will change offensively. So what. Everyone changes. We need to run the ball more and we need a coordinated effort to do that. Physical defensive teams beat us up under Leach because we weren't a physical team. We need to be more physical and shift our offensive identity towards what nationally has been shown to work consistently.
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01-21-2023, 12:20 PM
#109
Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Cussing on a message board. Man you are cool. Did your parents let you stay up late because it was the weekend too?
You and KB can go get a room together, because you both have no clue how good this staff can be.
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01-21-2023, 01:03 PM
#110
I would rather have Hollingshead than Bumphis. But Bumphis will do a good job I think. Drew is gonna be one of best
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01-21-2023, 01:10 PM
#111
Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
You?re clueless if you think hollingshead is better than the guy that had his players catching passes in the Rose Bowl 2 years in a row, and will out-recruit anybody on Lane?s staff at Oxford.
Friend/Schmidt will also prove to be better than Miller would have been in this system.
I like that Arnett has the balls to change the offensive philosophy. Anyone that doesn?t get behind that can just moan and pout about it.
Let me know when Bump is selected by the AFCA for the 35 under 35 leadership conference and becomes an offensive coordinator.
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01-21-2023, 01:14 PM
#112
Two of the biggest myths in football have been stated in this thread.
The first myth is that you have to run the ball to win. Analytics has proven this false.
The second myth is that the Air Raid isn?t physical.
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01-21-2023, 01:47 PM
#113
Originally Posted by
KB21
Two of the biggest myths in football have been stated in this thread.
The first myth is that you have to run the ball to win. Analytics has proven this false.
The second myth is that the Air Raid isn?t physical.
Name me a team that you would consider more physical than us that we beat this year.
The version of the Air Raid that we ran wasn't as physical as is needed in the SEC against the upper tier teams.
It's not a coincidence that the 4 games we lost were our 4 lowest scoring outputs of the season. We got pushed around on offense by teams that were more physical. We beat teams more talented than us, but not more physical than us.
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01-21-2023, 02:45 PM
#114
Originally Posted by
KB21
Let me know when Bump is selected by the AFCA for the 35 under 35 leadership conference and becomes an offensive coordinator.
I’ll let you know when this staff does WAY better than you have predicted.
Don’t go running away now. You’ve blown up 2 different message boards with your bad takes. Be man enough to admit when you’re wrong after that day comes.
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01-21-2023, 07:39 PM
#115
Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
I’ll let you know when this staff does WAY better than you have predicted.
Don’t go running away now. You’ve blown up 2 different message boards with your bad takes. Be man enough to admit when you’re wrong after that day comes.
I wish he would go back to genespage....
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01-21-2023, 08:02 PM
#116
Originally Posted by
KB21
Two of the biggest myths in football have been stated in this thread.
The first myth is that you have to run the ball to win. Analytics has proven this false.
The second myth is that the Air Raid isn?t physical.
I know what isn't a myth, the fact that Leach's offense couldn't do jack shit against any defense with a pulse the past 3 years.
"We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.
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01-22-2023, 01:50 AM
#117
Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Name me a team that you would consider more physical than us that we beat this year.
The version of the Air Raid that we ran wasn't as physical as is needed in the SEC against the upper tier teams.
It's not a coincidence that the 4 games we lost were our 4 lowest scoring outputs of the season. We got pushed around on offense by teams that were more physical. We beat teams more talented than us, but not more physical than us.
It's also probably not a coincidence that our offense struggled against the top 3 defenses in PPG and total defense in Georgia, Alabama, and Kentucky. Then we lost to LSU who was top 5 in PPG and 6 in total defense. Illinois was number one in the Big 10 in PPG and #2 in total defense and actually allowed fewer PPG than Georgia. We've never had an offense that has scored consistently against the top defenses in the SEC. The goal there should be to be able to score enough to give ourselves a chance to win a low scoring game. See the RelaiOutback Bowl.
The rest of the games we played we did pretty well. Except for the Egg Bowl where we turned it over a ton. And even then we should have had 30 points had it not been for a poor call on a play where Dillion Johnson scored and they incorrectly marked us down at the one. 30+ points on every else is very solid. People mock this team for blowing out our OOC teams but that rarely has happened at MSU if we're being honest. If we can make a few additions and tweaks and get to where we score 20+ points on really good defenses which we were pretty close to doing last year- then we could have a really good year this year.
But again at the end of the day it's about recruiting rather than the scheme we run.
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01-22-2023, 01:56 AM
#118
Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
You?re clueless if you think hollingshead is better than the guy that had his players catching passes in the Rose Bowl 2 years in a row, and will out-recruit anybody on Lane?s staff at Oxford.
Friend/Schmidt will also prove to be better than Miller would have been in this system.
I like that Arnett has the balls to change the offensive philosophy. Anyone that doesn?t get behind that can just moan and pout about it.
Two of the guys Arnett fired immediately became OC's. Miller will without a doubt land on his feet somewhere as well. I may be wrong but I kind of doubt that if we fired Bumphis he would become an OC. Hughes is the same difference as Washington. Barbay is an unknown and likely a downgrade from Leach. Friend will probably be OK but we'll be fortunate if he is as good as Miller. Schmidt I think was brought in to help Arnett more than anything and give him someone he trusts. Turner can recruit better than Phelps but Phelps wasn't bad. Literally know nothing about Dewhurst. I imagine Hopson will help him out.
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01-22-2023, 08:36 AM
#119
Originally Posted by
KB21
Two of the biggest myths in football have been stated in this thread.
The first myth is that you have to run the ball to win. Analytics has proven this false.
The second myth is that the Air Raid isn?t physical.
What analytics? You posting a random blog from some random nerd who crunched numbers isn’t analytics.
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01-22-2023, 08:45 AM
#120
KB21 and Homedawg evidently have a strong dislike for MSU. stfu
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