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    Quote Originally Posted by sandjunky View Post
    Don?t drink on weekdays. I didn?t bring Mullen into the discussion

    Mullen resurrected a dead program

    Moorehead was a disaster and quickly disposed of

    Leach was a hr hire - we got a ?dude? in a league full of dudes

    We did succumb by making an emotional hire - how is it not - Leach hasn?t been with us for what 48 hrs - Arnett may prove to be a dude - I do love the guys fire
    No one is going to want to hear this:

    We just made a typical MSU move. We did the nice thing. We chose to protect an unhired AD which gives me a ton of confidence in that search. We made a move to protect recruiting with a class that is maybe 30th right now?

    It may work out but we're going to have at best an inexperienced head coach who will have growing pains. Which is NOT what we need. Remember Dan vs LSU 2009? LOL.

    And we only have one open spot and that almost HAS TO go to an experienced OC. We can't bring in a DC because we don't have room. So it's going to be someone on staff in that role who is also inexperienced. And if we bring in another outside DC then we only have four offensive coaches on the whole staff- and one would have to be calling plays. Which again would be someone who has never called plays before.

    I hope we go like 9-3 or better this year because I have a feeling that there is a good chance we're going to be looking again in about three years. Hopefully under much better circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    I love Arnett! I have no idea if he's a great HC, but having talked to him more than a couple times, Kids are going to love him! His personality and fire is impressive.
    Yep.

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    Damn it! I go into a meeting my phone goes nuts. Put it on silent without looking and when I get out i have 87 texts and 5 voicemails. I like it. LFG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    No one is going to want to hear this:

    We just made a typical MSU move. We did the nice thing. We chose to protect an unhired AD which gives me a ton of confidence in that search. We made a move to protect recruiting with a class that is maybe 30th right now?

    It may work out but we're going to have at best an inexperienced head coach who will have growing pains. Which is NOT what we need. Remember Dan vs LSU 2009? LOL.

    And we only have one open spot and that almost HAS TO go to an experienced OC. We can't bring in a DC because we don't have room. So it's going to be someone on staff in that role who is also inexperienced. And if we bring in another outside DC then we only have four offensive coaches on the whole staff- and one would have to be calling plays. Which again would be someone who has never called plays before.

    I hope we go like 9-3 or better this year because I have a feeling that there is a good chance we're going to be looking again in about three years. Hopefully under much better circumstances.
    I wouldn?t say it?s ?typical MSU hire?. This is way different than any hire in Msu history. I?m not surprised in your thoughts, but time will tell.
    Any Coach is an iffy hire now days. I bet Arnett?s buyout is less than any HC we would have hired.

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    only time will tell if this is good hire or not. But we must keep the AIR RAID!!

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    i am new here sorry for the loss of your coach i wish u guys luck esp aga ole miss

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    u had to make this move u guys have a good off in place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    No one is going to want to hear this:

    We just made a typical MSU move. We did the nice thing. We chose to protect an unhired AD which gives me a ton of confidence in that search. We made a move to protect recruiting with a class that is maybe 30th right now?

    It may work out but we're going to have at best an inexperienced head coach who will have growing pains. Which is NOT what we need. Remember Dan vs LSU 2009? LOL.

    And we only have one open spot and that almost HAS TO go to an experienced OC. We can't bring in a DC because we don't have room. So it's going to be someone on staff in that role who is also inexperienced. And if we bring in another outside DC then we only have four offensive coaches on the whole staff- and one would have to be calling plays. Which again would be someone who has never called plays before.

    I hope we go like 9-3 or better this year because I have a feeling that there is a good chance we're going to be looking again in about three years. Hopefully under much better circumstances.
    Why don't we have room? Leach was HC and OC. Most teams have HC, OC, and DC. Arnette is HC. We need a OC and a DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    We just made a typical MSU move. We did the nice thing. We chose to protect an unhired AD which gives me a ton of confidence in that search. We made a move to protect recruiting with a class that is maybe 30th right now?
    My sentiment exactly. Learning the ins and outs of being the HEAD COACH in the SEC West is hard enough for the "elites with coaching pedigree". The bowl game takes on a completely different level of importance. It's unfair and sucks because to the timing and circumstances, but the new regime needs to show a "taste" of what's planned for the future. Those extra bowl practices are worth everything now. Let the tbd OC (if promoted from within) have the freedom to preview his plan for the O even if it has some different components from pure Air Raid. Use this game to set the tone. Show good organization on the sidelines. Winning the game would be special, but give me a lot of reasons to be optimistic going into next season.

    If Arnett decides to hire an OC from outside the current coaching staff, I would think it unlikely this outside OC could come on soon enough to coach the bowl practices and bowl game (assuming the OC's team is not playing in a bowl game or playoff).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    Why don't we have room? Leach was HC and OC. Most teams have HC, OC, and DC. Arnette is HC. We need a OC and a DC.
    We only have 1 spot right now and that has to go to offense. OC/QB coach is the natural opening we need to fill. We can't hire anyone else for an on the field position as it stands right now.

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    Mullenz, Moorehead, Leech, Arnette......good to see some of our fans are continuing the tradition of spelling our coaches name incorrectly.

    For future reference it is ZACH ARNETT. There's not a K and there's no E

    Edit: Whoever made it where you can't spell Dan's name with an S at the end is an absolute genius. Kudos to you
    Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 12-14-2022 at 08:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    We only have 1 spot right now and that has to go to offense. OC/QB coach is the natural opening we need to fill. We can't hire anyone else for an on the field position as it stands right now.
    I want be surprised if we lose one or two assistants.

    Last time we had assistant promoted to HC was Bob Tyler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I want be surprised if we lose one or two assistants.

    Last time we had assistant promoted to HC was Bob Tyler.
    I wouldn't be either but right now we can only replace 1 coach. After the bowl game we will see what shakes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I want be surprised if we lose one or two assistants.

    Last time we had assistant promoted to HC was Bob Tyler.
    Bob Tyler was ahead of the game. He had our NIL rolling in the 70s

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Bob Tyler was ahead of the game. He had our NIL rolling in the 70s
    Yes he did. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I wouldn?t say it?s ?typical MSU hire?. This is way different than any hire in Msu history. I?m not surprised in your thoughts, but time will tell.
    Any Coach is an iffy hire now days. I bet Arnett?s buyout is less than any HC we would have hired.
    It just sucks for us. We have a team lined up to have a good season and now we have to go in it with an inexperienced staff again. And it took us awhile to get here.

    Of course, Moorhead's biggest downfall was his lack of discipline. That won't be an issue under Arnett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    I wouldn't be either but right now we can only replace 1 coach. After the bowl game we will see what shakes out.
    And if a coach leaves it's probably not likely to be on the defensive side- which means we aren't going to bring in a new DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Bob Tyler was ahead of the game. He had our NIL rolling in the 70s
    Not as well as Freeze though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Mullenz, Moorehead, Leech, Arnette......good to see some of our fans are continuing the tradition of spelling our coaches name incorrectly.

    For future reference it is ZACH ARNETT. There's not a K and there's no E

    Edit: Whoever made it where you can't spell Dan's name with an S at the end is an absolute genius. Kudos to you
    Would love to see "Arnette" censored

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    If Cooterpoot is optimistic, I?m in!

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