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12-08-2022, 01:23 PM
#381
Originally Posted by
Pancho
You gone help DJ out when he does not end up on a power 5 level team too? He's lucky that Marks was injured or he'd been standing on the sideline more. I know a couple the players too and they both are pissed as pure F*CK at the childish behavior of DJ as well as a couple others. In my opinion, DJ never was an SEC caliber RB but he got PT due to playing hard and being gritty. I wonder what he will think when he lands at a sun belt school? Is that gone pay good?
You're naive if you think this one incident was a breaking point. Athletes in college are dawged daily by coaches. Leach has had an entire turnover of the team since he's arrived. Ironically, this is the least amount of players so far that have transferred. However, everyone has a breaking point. Sports and the military are the only two professions where you must take verbal abuse and be ok with it. When a player finally says enough, they're soft. GTFOH, they do more activities in 3 hours than probably 75% of the United States.
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12-08-2022, 01:24 PM
#382
Originally Posted by
662dawg
When? In 1970? Bc he doesn't know shit about the current program. I can say that with 100% fact & commerce & others can probably tell you the same. The culture of the locker room was very good until a few days ago. The problems are being handled. Two are already out.
You're definitely ignorant to a culture if you think 2 days caused it to go sideways. Your sources suck and your speculation is terrible. Are you a politician?
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12-08-2022, 01:28 PM
#383
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Saban and Leach are not in the same stratosphere. Saban has also changed his philosophy and coaching style.
Kirby is a hardass too. The video releases this year before the TN game he was cussing a DB out.
But some coaches aren't like that. There is more than one approach that will work.
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12-08-2022, 01:30 PM
#384
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Saban and Leach are not in the same stratosphere. Saban has also changed his philosophy and coaching style.
You're so full of shit lmao. I can't even imagine what he says to them in private. Nick Saban has not gone soft. I guarantee you that, especially after missing the playoffs for the first time ever?
https://youtu.be/xOhVfD7sCgk
https://outsider.com/sports/nick-sab...beating-texas/
https://tdalabamamag.com/2022/11/13/...ffense-mishap/
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12-08-2022, 01:32 PM
#385
Originally Posted by
confucius say
Kirby is a hardass too. The video releases this year before the TN game he was cussing a DB out.
But some coaches aren't like that. There is more than one approach that will work.
I would think guys like saban and smart can get away with more when their players are already handsomely paid and both coaches are cranking out players in the draft year-in, year-out.
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12-08-2022, 01:33 PM
#386
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
You're definitely ignorant to a culture if you think 2 days caused it to go sideways. Your sources suck and your speculation is terrible. Are you a politician?
Lmao. So a CURRENT leader of the football team word sucks? And yours, who played 80 years ago for a completely different staff, is Gold? 🤦
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12-08-2022, 01:35 PM
#387
Originally Posted by
msstate7
I would think guys like saban and smart can get away with more when their players are already handsomely paid and both coaches are cranking out players in the draft year-in, year-out.
So it's ok only if you're a Saban & Smart? That's your argument?
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12-08-2022, 01:37 PM
#388
I respect 28 and his info because I know he played at State and is pretty close to the program. There are so many of us on here that know players and coaches or people in the athletic dept and there is always gonna be some conflicting info. It's just like any organization there's gonna be people happy to be there and there's gonna be some that are disgruntled. The kids I know personally on the team are happy and really like Leach(why they are staying when they could go to the draft or transfer). Heck my youngest son knows half the team and plays video games online with them. I do know that nil and the portal is a huge issue. It's becoming equivalent to a kid saying "I don't like you and I'm taking my ball and going home and not playing with you anymore". Cfb is forever changed and it's a mess. Can't wait until this infects the high school level. Heck travel sports are already littered with deals for kids to come play with this or that organization. My youngest who is a baseball player was a dang good basketball player as a youth and at one of his games a guy came up to me and offered some "incentives" if he would come play for his team. I declined. Just my 2 cents which doesn't mean much. Sorry for the long post guys.
Last edited by Commercecomet24; 12-08-2022 at 01:40 PM.
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12-08-2022, 01:38 PM
#389
Originally Posted by
662dawg
So it's ok only if you're a Saban & Smart? That's your argument?
No, I'm saying kids would put up with more from them than someone with a lesser resume
And I don't care what the coaches say, and I don't care if the players put up with it or not. As long as leach is our coach, he can do it his way. And as long as players have a transfer ticket out, they do what they want.
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12-08-2022, 01:40 PM
#390
I will never understand why people cannot accept the fact that more than one thing can be true at the same time.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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12-08-2022, 01:42 PM
#391
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
I respect 28 and his info because I know he played at State and is pretty close to the program. There are so many of us on here that know players and coaches or people in the athletic dept and there is always gonna be some conflicting info. It's just like any organization there's gonna be people happy to be there and there's gonna be some that are disgruntled. The kids I know personally on the team are happy and really like Leach(why they are staying when they could go to the draft or transfer). Heck my youngest son knows half the team and plays video games online with them. I do know that nil and the portal is a huge issue. It's becoming equivalent to a kid saying "I don't like you and I'm taking my ball and going home and not playing with you anymore". Cfb is forever changed and it's a mess. Can't wait until this infects the high school level. Heck travel sports are already littered with deals for kids to come play with this or that organization. My youngest who is a baseball player was a dang good basketball player as a youth and at one of his games a guy came up to me and offered some "incentives" if he would come play for his team. I declined. Sorry for the long post guys.
I respect that he was a player at State. I do not respect the dishonesty & that's exactly what he's displaying right now simply bc he doesn't like Leach for whatever reason. Leach is as well respected among the coaching ranks & his players as any coach in college football.
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12-08-2022, 01:42 PM
#392
Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
I will never understand why people cannot accept the fact that more than one thing can be true at the same time.
We live in an age where being "right" is more important than being factually correct.
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12-08-2022, 01:43 PM
#393
Originally Posted by
msstate7
No, I'm saying kids would put up with more from them than someone with a lesser resume
And I don't care what the coaches say, and I don't care if the players put up with it or not. As long as leach is our coach, he can do it his way. And as long as players have a transfer ticket out, they do what they want.
I can't argue with this. But maybe a lesson is learned among players entering the portal that "thy shall not lie" on the way out.
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12-08-2022, 01:47 PM
#394
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
I respect 28 and his info because I know he played at State and is pretty close to the program. There are so many of us on here that know players and coaches or people in the athletic dept and there is always gonna be some conflicting info. It's just like any organization there's gonna be people happy to be there and there's gonna be some that are disgruntled. The kids I know personally on the team are happy and really like Leach(why they are staying when they could go to the draft or transfer). Heck my youngest son knows half the team and plays video games online with them. I do know that nil and the portal is a huge issue. It's becoming equivalent to a kid saying "I don't like you and I'm taking my ball and going home and not playing with you anymore". Cfb is forever changed and it's a mess. Can't wait until this infects the high school level. Heck travel sports are already littered with deals for kids to come play with this or that organization. My youngest who is a baseball player was a dang good basketball player as a youth and at one of his games a guy came up to me and offered some "incentives" if he would come play for his team. I declined. Just my 2 cents which doesn't mean much. Sorry for the long post guys.
CC, you're one of the last posters who would ever need to apologize for a long-winded post.
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12-08-2022, 01:48 PM
#395
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
You're naive if you think this one incident was a breaking point. Athletes in college are dawged daily by coaches. Leach has had an entire turnover of the team since he's arrived. Ironically, this is the least amount of players so far that have transferred. However, everyone has a breaking point. Sports and the military are the only two professions where you must take verbal abuse and be ok with it. When a player finally says enough, they're soft. GTFOH, they do more activities in 3 hours than probably 75% of the United States.
You clearly don't work in a hospital because I get verbally abused all the time. Add that to your professions list.
And they are soft.
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12-08-2022, 01:49 PM
#396
Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
I will never understand why people cannot accept the fact that more than one thing can be true at the same time.
Yep this is one of the few absolute facts in this thread!
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12-08-2022, 01:50 PM
#397
Originally Posted by
msstate7
No, I'm saying kids would put up with more from them than someone with a lesser resume
And I don't care what the coaches say, and I don't care if the players put up with it or not. As long as leach is our coach, he can do it his way. And as long as players have a transfer ticket out, they do what they want.
Then explain why Saban has a starting offensive lineman in the portal and a couple more guys that were key contributors?
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12-08-2022, 01:53 PM
#398
Originally Posted by
confucius say
Kirby is a hardass too. The video releases this year before the TN game he was cussing a DB out.
But some coaches aren't like that. There is more than one approach that will work.
Kirby is not old school.
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12-08-2022, 01:55 PM
#399
Originally Posted by
Tater
CC, you're one of the last posters who would ever need to apologize for a long-winded post.
Appreciate that. I try not to rant to much.
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12-08-2022, 01:55 PM
#400
Originally Posted by
Todd4State
You clearly don't work in a hospital because I get verbally abused all the time. Add that to your professions list.
And they are soft.
I actually work in Healthcare. If you're allowing a doctor to yell at your that's your fault. Healthcare pales in comparison.
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