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12-07-2022, 10:05 PM
#181
Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Taking credit for your star LB, I see***
Hey, I had to show my Roy Orbison tatoo to land that recruit.
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12-07-2022, 10:07 PM
#182
Believe it or not football at least in my opinion was meant to be about creating good men and fathers and teaching life lessons. The money and social media has changed all that.
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12-07-2022, 10:08 PM
#183
Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
Y'all chill. None of us know what happened. We can only speculate. Maybe we'll actually get the facts or maybe we won't. Let's let it all play out.
What you posted makes sense, but some have their own agendas so some don't want it to play out. All of this is allegedly right now. Nobody knows the scenario on why certain things were said or what type of conversation they had.
Last edited by yjnkdawg; 12-07-2022 at 10:12 PM.
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12-07-2022, 10:10 PM
#184
Originally Posted by
msu15
Yep. He has never once chewed Will out.
This is incorrect.
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12-07-2022, 10:11 PM
#185
Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Well I can tell you he is 0 tolerance for stealing hitting women missing class or drugs. We hope none of those applied to DJ. But he is not going to coddle anyone. Those are pretty good principles in my opinion
Glad he wasn't here when we recruited Jeff, then.
In this league you've got to he flexible on some things.
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12-07-2022, 10:18 PM
#186
Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Glad he wasn't here when we recruited Jeff, then.
In this league you've got to he flexible on some things.
Well. Him and his staffs have won enough to stand by his principles. I cant say how I would have handled the Simmons deal. I am for second chances and on the surface Simmons seems like a great guy.
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12-07-2022, 10:19 PM
#187
I don?t blame DJ for transferring. I also believe he shouldn?t have put that about Leach in his tweet.
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12-07-2022, 10:20 PM
#188
Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Mike Is in the SEC. This is big boy country. His "principles" are 2nd to our program.
Lmao. Kids are weak as Charmin these days & people like you are part of the reason why. DJ is obviously pissed off bc Leach didn't beg him to stay. He's easily replaceable.
No way these kids could have played for my high school coaches back in the day. They would have quit the first day of practice. I've been told much worse things than a coach saying "you aren't tough" or whatever was said, if it was even said at all.
I know a few players that played for Freeze & Mullen & I can tell you that if this upset Dillon, then he wouldn't have been able to pay for either of them. Good luck to anyone thinking they're immune to criticism as a college football player.
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12-07-2022, 10:23 PM
#189
Originally Posted by
yjnkdawg
What you posted makes sense, but some have their own agendas so some don't want it to play out. All of this is allegedly right now. Nobody knows the scenario on why certain things were said or what type of conversation they had.
Yes and we'll never know for sure exactly what was said or done.
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12-07-2022, 10:23 PM
#190
Originally Posted by
662dawg
Lmao. Kids are weak as Charmin these days & people like you are part of the reason why. DJ is obviously pissed off bc Leach didn't beg him to stay. He's easily replaceable.
No way these kids could have played for my high school coaches back in the day. They would have quit the first day of practice. I've been told much worse things than a coach saying "you aren't tough" or whatever was said, if it was even said at all.
I know a few players that played for Freeze & Mullen & I can tell you that if this upset Dillon, then he wouldn't have been able to pay for either of them. Good luck to anyone thinking they're immune to criticism as a college football player.
Yep, all my fault.
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12-07-2022, 10:24 PM
#191
Just some perspective: we had a running back named Kylin Hill a couple of years ago. Regardless of who was right or wrong off the field, we never missed his production.
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12-07-2022, 10:24 PM
#192
Originally Posted by
yjnkdawg
What you posted makes sense, but some have their own agendas so some don't want it to play out. All of this is allegedly right now. Nobody knows the scenario on why certain things were said or what type of conversation they had.
This exactly. I have "family" that actually plays for Leach right now & will be back next year & he says the players LOVE Coach Leach. This sounds like a situation where he expected Leach to beg him to stay & when it didn't happen he took a criticism from practice or something & ran with it as his way "out". I'll find out more tomorrow about what really happened.
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12-07-2022, 10:24 PM
#193
Originally Posted by
Vandownbytheriver
It is weird as hell how everything just went to hell in a matter of a few days. We need an AD in the worst way for damage control if nothing else. This has the possibility of getting completely out of hand. We are going to completely blow any momentum we had after the Egg Bowl if it keeps up.
Probably one of those "handlers" getting into his head and making him think he is bigger than he really is.
Not sure an AD can fix that.
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12-07-2022, 10:26 PM
#194
Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Well. Him and his staffs have won enough to stand by his principles. I cant say how I would have handled the Simmons deal. I am for second chances and on the surface Simmons seems like a great guy.
Fair.
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12-07-2022, 10:26 PM
#195
We hire Moorhead and he coddles players and the players take advantage of him and we end up with a mess.
Fans want a coach with more discipline.
We hire Leach who brings in more discipline.
Now fans are mad because our coach is too hard on the players.
Nothing better summarizes Mississippi State fans.
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12-07-2022, 10:27 PM
#196
Originally Posted by
RisperDawg
Just some perspective: we had a running back named Kylin Hill a couple of years ago. Regardless of who was right or wrong off the field, we never missed his production.
Yeah and interestingly enough his bad attitude showed up in the NFL.
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12-07-2022, 10:28 PM
#197
Originally Posted by
662dawg
This exactly. I have "family" that actually plays for Leach right now & will be back next year & he says the players LOVE Coach Leach. This sounds like a situation where he expected Leach to beg him to stay & when it didn't happen he took a criticism from practice or something & ran with it as his way "out". I'll find out more tomorrow about what really happened.
Hard to make 100 guys happy.
I actually like the portal because if a player doesn't want to be here then they can leave. Rather that than have a bad attitude infect the entire team.
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12-07-2022, 10:29 PM
#198
The Simmons deal was handled 100% correctly. Simmons got dragged into a Hood dispute and made the mistake guys in his neighborhood make every day. It was a family thing and not a case of a kid being involved in something nefarious. He was given a 2nd chance and told the microscope was on him. He became a campus leader at State, made good grades, and did what people figured he would do. Now he is one of the NFL's top 5 guys on the DL and you dont hear about any trouble from him.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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12-07-2022, 10:32 PM
#199
Originally Posted by
Coach34
The Simmons deal was handled 100% correctly. Simmons got dragged into a Hood dispute and made the mistake guys in his neighborhood make every day. It was a family thing and not a case of a kid being involved in something nefarious. He was given a 2nd chance and told the microscope was on him. He became a campus leader at State, made good grades, and did what people figured he would do. Now he is one of the NFL's top 5 guys on the DL and you dont hear about any trouble from him.
Good post. Make more posts like this. Less like ones smelling your own fart.
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12-07-2022, 10:32 PM
#200
His dad spoke with my dad in a box at the ETSU game. His dad said he was going likely going pro because they were being a told he was a 4th or 5th round pick. Looks like they got bad advice. Shocker. He wanted big money and we clearly aren?t doing that. We are trying to keep the core as much as possible. This has become an absolute shit show. All I can say is everyone keep contributing.
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