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Originally Posted by
WSOPdawg
The M over S requires a "team-first" mentality, and if Grof wanted to be part of MS, he needed to make his decision faster than he did.
Love the Ledbetter and Knight transfers (even with Knight drafted by MLB). But now, I'm ready to roll with Dakota Jordan and see if he can become the Alpha dog we missed in 2022 (ie, no Mangum, no TA, no Rooker on this past year's team). A single year from Grof will arguably only delay (and cost us to lose a year) from Dakota at the expense of prolonging a 5th-year, non-drafted player's career.
Ready to roll w Dakota has consequences. It might work, and it might not. You have to have other options. He might struggle his fr year. This league is unforgiving on freshmen. If he's ready, he'll win the job. But you can't have him as your only option. He nor highfill, not matter the talent level. And if our staff does that, and they won't, they would be stupid.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Ready to roll w Dakota has consequences. It might work, and it might not. You have to have other options. He might struggle his fr year. This league is unforgiving on freshmen. If he's ready, he'll win the job. But you can't have him as your only option. He nor highfill, not matter the talent level. And if our staff does that, and they won't, they would be stupid.
Yes sir!
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Originally Posted by
Patrick Tibbons
Well? we aren?t getting either.
Knight signed with the Mariners today for $50k ($100k below slot value)and Groff committed to Ole Miss.
Hopefully Ledbetter works out and some of these freshman step up.
Willing to sign for 50 stinking K rather than play a year for us? Seems like we could have gotten him an NIL deal to offset most of that amount.
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Originally Posted by
WSOPdawg
The M over S requires a "team-first" mentality, and if Grof wanted to be part of MS, he needed to make his decision faster than he did.
Love the Ledbetter and Knight transfers (even with Knight drafted by MLB). But now, I'm ready to roll with Dakota Jordan and see if he can become the Alpha dog we missed in 2022 (ie, no Mangum, no TA, no Rooker on this past year's team). A single year from Grof will arguably only delay (and cost us to lose a year) from Dakota at the expense of prolonging a 5th-year, non-drafted player's career.
As others have said I don't think it's a given that he would beat our Aaron Downs for the LF spot as Ledbetter can play CF. Which is good because it gives some flexibility as far as who we can after.
I don't fault anyone here. Knight was a better prospect than Groff. He went pro. That's how the cookie crumbles. Groff may not have liked that but this is a business and we have to go after the best player even if it burns us in the short term.
But worst case scenario- an OF of Downs, Ledbetter, Kellum, and maybe Dakota Jordan is something I could roll with if it comes down to it.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Willing to sign for 50 stinking K rather than play a year for us? Seems like we could have gotten him an NIL deal to offset most of that amount.
I think we're still learning the ropes somewhat here. Although in his case because of COVID age was a factor as well.
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So we have landed several from the portal and not a hint from D1 baseball. Ole Miss lands 2 and they get a full page right up along with LSU seemingly having an article daily… I’m starting to hate that site…
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Willing to sign for 50 stinking K rather than play a year for us? Seems like we could have gotten him an NIL deal to offset most of that amount.
It sounds like our coaches didn?t get a good read on what Knight wanted to do. If he signed for $50k, then he was never coming to back to play college ball. Maybe he wasn?t honest with us.
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Originally Posted by
Patrick Tibbons
It sounds like our coaches didn?t get a good read on what Knight wanted to do. If he signed for $50k, then he was never coming to back to play college ball. Maybe he wasn?t honest with us.
you have it figured out. It would have been different had he had 2 years to play.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Willing to sign for 50 stinking K rather than play a year for us? Seems like we could have gotten him an NIL deal to offset most of that amount.
NIL money wouldn't have made one difference. At his age, and his opportunity, he was signing.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
NIL money wouldn't have made one difference. At his age, and his opportunity, he was signing.
Yeah more at play here than just the money.
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LSU message board on Skenes.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/...ate/103421871/
Skenes visited LSU this past weekend. Already visited Arkansas or is visiting Arkansas this weekend.
Someone should mention to him that LSU pitching coach once oversaw the TJ'ing of nearly an entire MSU pitching staff. A pitching staff with ridiculous talent to win a National Championship just evaporated - Parker Ford, Cale Breaux, Keegan James, Ethan Small, Jared Padgett, Noah Hughes. Only Ethan Small fully recovered and reached full potential.
Think about 2017 if MSU did not need emergency walk-ons, field-players, and Mangum pitching.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
LSU message board on Skenes.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/...ate/103421871/
Skenes visited LSU this past weekend. Already visited Arkansas or is visiting Arkansas this weekend.
Someone should mention to him that LSU pitching coach once oversaw the TJ'ing of nearly an entire MSU pitching staff. A pitching staff with ridiculous talent to win a National Championship just evaporated - Parker Ford, Cale Breaux, Keegan James, Ethan Small, Jared Padgett, Noah Hughes. Only Ethan Small fully recovered and reached full potential.
Think about 2017 if MSU did not need emergency walk-ons, field-players, and Mangum pitching.
Just trash...who cares. that coach who did all that is long gone and we have proven how to care for a pitcher and the results on the field and in the draft speak for itself. If it didn't he wouldn't have visited us.
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Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
Just trash...who cares. that coach who did all that is long gone and we have proven how to care for a pitcher and the results on the field and in the draft speak for itself. If it didn't he wouldn't have visited us.
The coach is not long gone, Wes Johnson is the pitching coach at LSU now. Recently hired from the Twins.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
LSU message board on Skenes.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/...ate/103421871/
Skenes visited LSU this past weekend. Already visited Arkansas or is visiting Arkansas this weekend.
Someone should mention to him that LSU pitching coach once oversaw the TJ'ing of nearly an entire MSU pitching staff. A pitching staff with ridiculous talent to win a National Championship just evaporated - Parker Ford, Cale Breaux, Keegan James, Ethan Small, Jared Padgett, Noah Hughes. Only Ethan Small fully recovered and reached full potential.
Think about 2017 if MSU did not need emergency walk-ons, field-players, and Mangum pitching.
He visited Arkansas last Tuesday-Wednesday.
Hasn't been much reported on how it went though which leads most Hog fans to believe it's down to MSU or LSU.
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Originally Posted by
WPS
He visited Arkansas last Tuesday-Wednesday.
Hasn't been much reported on how it went though which leads most Hog fans to believe it's down to MSU or LSU.
We’re both very much in it still because this guy is basing his decision on where he fits and what is the best school for him to be a 1st rounder BUTTTT- I just know LSU is gonna make him an offer that’s hard to refuse. And I’ll be surprised if he refuses. Program wise? Really no difference in the 3.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
We’re both very much in it still because this guy is basing his decision on where he fits and what is the best school for him to be a 1st rounder BUTTTT- I just know LSU is gonna make him an offer that’s hard to refuse. And I’ll be surprised if he refuses. Program wise? Really no difference in the 3.
What about Skenes? connection to the transfer pitcher from Texas that we signed last month? Hopefully this will work soon n our favor and come in to play.
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Originally Posted by
WSOPdawg
What about Skenes? connection to the transfer pitcher from Texas that we signed last month? Hopefully this will work soon n our favor and come in to play.
I see Skenes re-tweet stuff from quite a few different players. Seems like all of these kids know and have played with each other somewhere along the way. I know nothing, but considering that he will only play one season, I doubt any friendships will sway a decision. Won’t hurt, but probably won’t move the needle much.
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Originally Posted by
WPS
He visited Arkansas last Tuesday-Wednesday.
Hasn't been much reported on how it went though which leads most Hog fans to believe it's down to MSU or LSU.
WPS is a hell of a guy, trying to make us feel a tad better. Knows we are suffering a horror show of a season. A true friend.
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"Built It and They Will Come" doesn't have the weight we thought now that this NIL and Transfer Portal stuff has hit the fan.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
The coach is not long gone, Wes Johnson is the pitching coach at LSU now. Recently hired from the Twins.
Sorry read your message wrong. thought it was an lsu poster trashing us. forgot that little midget was there.
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