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RHP Paul Young
Is having Tommy John surgery tomorrow. So there's that. He would have put us over the top. Now he might pitch in 2015. If he stays in school, we will have one season out of him. What could have been.
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Definitely a shame, pitchers are fragile creatures for sure. That's why you really can't blame any of them for grabbing money out of HS or JUCO if they get the chance. You risk an arm injury on every pitch. Just ask JM Shelley.
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I would think he'll stay another year. Scouts are going to want him to pitch vs SEC hitters
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Will he even be eligible for the draft after this year? It was my understanding that he transferred after his freshman year.
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I called this 6 months ago. The ol give it a rest seldom works. Should have had it long ago and would be well on his way to recovery.
Shelley had his tj last week.What doctor does the tj surgery on State players.
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Originally Posted by
bully99
I called this 6 months ago. The ol give it a rest seldom works. Should have had it long ago and would be well on his way to recovery.
Shelley had his tj last week.What doctor does the tj surgery on State players.
Andrews is performing Young's. Wouldn't be surprised if he did Shelly's, too.
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We can thank his JUCO coach for this one. For someone to let a guy throw multiple 150 pitch complete games in a row without letting them learn how to keep their arm healthy or putting them on a training program is borderline abuse, IMO.
That coach was riding Young like a rented mule.
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Originally Posted by
bully99
I called this 6 months ago. The ol give it a rest seldom works. Should have had it long ago and would be well on his way to recovery.
Shelley had his tj last week.What doctor does the tj surgery on State players.
Yep. I really can't think of an instance for us where trying that has turned out well for us.
With the way TJ surgery is these days, it's usually better for the player's long-term health to go ahead and have the procedure.
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You are eligible to be drafted after 3 years of college (major) or age 21 whichever comes first.
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I'm glad he's getting it done now rather than in March because it takes about 12 months to recover from Tommy John. We should be able to get a medical RS for this year and then we might have to redshirt him again next year while he recovers.
If we're patient, we could reap the rewards though.
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Todd,we ARE in March . Most pitchers come back from TJ ,but certainly not all.
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Well, he was initially supposed to wait until late March. Tommy John surgery has a very good success rate- I think it's 85%. And Dr. Andrew's is THE guy to go to have it done.
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Banned
When 1 in 7 MLB pitchers are having to get this procedure done, it's about time to take a look at what's going on. Something is off with the mechanics we teach today to put that much stress on the elbow and shoulder. Guarantee you Chris Stratton won't ever have to have this surgery, look how smooth his delivery is.
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Originally Posted by
Goat Holder
When 1 in 7 MLB pitchers are having to get this procedure done, it's about time to take a look at what's going on. Something is off with the mechanics we teach today to put that much stress on the elbow and shoulder. Guarantee you Chris Stratton won't ever have to have this surgery, look how smooth his delivery is.
This is honestly just kind of stupid. Every time that a pitcher throws a ball 90+ mph it puts 2x the amount of strain on the UCL necessary to tear it. Considering Stratton consistently throws fastballs 93-94 mph I think that guarantee you just made is pretty bold. What mechanical change do you propose making? Throw underhanded? With more pitchers throwing harder Tommy John is just gonna become part of the game. The arm and especially elbow wasn't made for that much stress to be put on it over and over again. The only thing that would prevent it from happening is converting to men's fast pitch.
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Last edited by RAYn_Man; 02-17-2015 at 06:43 PM.
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Random sports science question. Why do you almost never hear about tennis players (serves) or QB's tearing their UCL and needing TJ surgery?
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Originally Posted by
Goat Holder
When 1 in 7 MLB pitchers are having to get this procedure done, it's about time to take a look at what's going on. Something is off with the mechanics we teach today to put that much stress on the elbow and shoulder. Guarantee you Chris Stratton won't ever have to have this surgery, look how smooth his delivery is.
Studies show that volume of throwing is a much more important factor in UCL failure compared to how hard someone throws or their mechanics.
In short, don't ask your star pitcher to throw 100+ pitches regularly.
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Originally Posted by
ButcherShop
This is honestly just kind of stupid. Every time that a pitcher throws a ball 90+ mph it puts 2x the amount of strain on the UCL necessary to tear it. Considering Stratton consistently throws fastballs 93-94 mph I think that guarantee you just made is pretty bold. What mechanical change do you propose making? Throw underhanded? With more pitchers throwing harder Tommy John is just gonna become part of the game. The arm and especially elbow wasn't made for that much stress to be put on it over and over again. The only thing that would prevent it from happening is converting to men's fast pitch.
Throwing underhanded is the natural motion on the arm.
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Originally Posted by
Irondawg
Random sports science question. Why do you almost never hear about tennis players (serves) or QB's tearing their UCL and needing TJ surgery?
I don't know, but I would guess it probably has to do with the amount of repetitions with quarterbacks. On game day, the most they'll ever throw is about 50 passes. They may throw more during the week, but not nearly as much at any one time. Plus, it's just easier on the arm to throw a football. I don't know why exactly scientifically, other than the fact that QBs rarely throw as violently as pitchers do, but if you go out and throw a football around and then try to throw some fastballs, your arm will feel it much more quickly throwing the baseball.
In tennis, I would guess that motion is much more natural for the arm.
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"The arm and especially elbow wasn't made for that much stress to be put on it over and over again."
Yep- just like the human knee is not designed to play football.
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