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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Thats been my stance on Hancock all along. Where is he gonna go? If he gets drafted he will be on a low level bus league team living with 4 or 5 other guys in an apartment, playing in front of tens of people somewhere after signing for a twix bar and a warm pepsi. Come back and catch next year playing SEC ball, bang college girls, and play in front of 10K or more on the reg- and then sign for your twix bar and pepsi.
Hancock C, Hines, 1B, and Clark, RF is a nice start to putting together a lineup for next season.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Fristoe has a big decision. He has too much talent to keep failing. He either has hope Fox can get him straight and he really likes Sville- or he needs to try playing somewhere else like LSU or A&M where he may get coached better.
I guess I can give Fox the benefit of the doubt on Walling, but it's tough when he couldn't do anything with Fristoe or Tepper. Not to mention MacLeod and Cerantola.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
Hancock will get next to no money if he gets drafted this year or next year. Unless he just hates college baseball, coming back and playing college ball beats the hell out of riding on a crappy bus and staying in cheap hotels for a year in rookie ball.
The crappy bus and hotels will be there next year.
If he gets a shot he has to take it. He's 23 now. But he will get nil money to stay. I get both sides. No, he's never playing in the bigs, but man, it's hard to tell a kid to never try
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Hancock C, Hines, 1B, and Clark, RF is a nice start to putting together a lineup for next season.
Why do people keep leaving Forsythe out? Everyone on here would have killed to have his defense and him hit .250 this year and the kid over .270 and was hitting almost .300 coming into the last series and still is elite in the field…
Forsythe SS
Hines 1b
Hancock C
Alford 3B
Clark RF
(Random order) That’s what we have so far. Now I bet Kam comes back and will be moved to CF. We need a 2B and another OF. Of course you take whoever is legit and wants to come. Tell everyone everything is open for business. Even catcher and 1b. Then you play the best period.
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Hancock got engaged over the weekend. So his priorities may change a little.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Hancock C, Hines, 1B, and Clark, RF is a nice start to putting together a lineup for next season.
Hancock and clark are coming back?
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Hancock and clark are coming back?
Clark will be back. Looking like Hancock is a possibility.
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Originally Posted by
TNDawg35
Why do people keep leaving Forsythe out? Everyone on here would have killed to have his defense and him hit .250 this year and the kid over .270 and was hitting almost .300 coming into the last series and still is elite in the field…
Forsythe SS
Hines 1b
Hancock C
Alford 3B
Clark RF
(Random order) That’s what we have so far. Now I bet Kam comes back and will be moved to CF. We need a 2B and another OF. Of course you take whoever is legit and wants to come. Tell everyone everything is open for business. Even catcher and 1b. Then you play the best period.
I agree w the Forsythe part. I know people wil disagree and that's fine. But he wasn't our problem.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Clark will be back. Looking like Hancock is a possibility.
Man, that's a pretty big deal. I think both could have big seasons
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I agree w the Forsythe part. I know people wil disagree and that's fine. But he wasn't our problem.
Could be gridley 2.0. Gridley hit for decent avg, but showed no pop his first 2 years, and then came out strong in year 3
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Originally Posted by
TNDawg35
Why do people keep leaving Forsythe out?
Because he is a singles hitter that average climbed because he had limited AB's. He is really good defensively there is no disputing that- but at 165 pounds he will remain a singles hitter that hits about .250. If you can replace him with a quality player you do it- Foreskin is a late inning replacement- not an SEC SS
Leggs had a lower average but had a bigger impact offensively on limited AB's.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
If he gets a shot he has to take it. He's 23 now. But he will get nil money to stay. I get both sides. No, he's never playing in the bigs, but man, it's hard to tell a kid to never try
Even if he comes back next year he'll still get a chance to play pro baseball. I guess it depends on how much he feels his ceiling is. Some college guys know by their sophomore junior year that they're not getting past AAA at best. Some don't.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Because he is a singles hitter that average climbed because he had limited AB's. He is really good defensively there is no disputing that- but at 165 pounds he will remain a singles hitter that hits about .250. If you can replace him with a quality player you do it- Foreskin is a late inning replacement- not an SEC SS
Leggs had a lower average but had a bigger impact offensively on limited AB's.
This.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Even if he comes back next year he'll still get a chance to play pro baseball. I guess it depends on how much he feels his ceiling is. Some college guys know by their sophomore junior year that they're not getting past AAA at best. Some don't.
I get that. But he'll be 24 by then. And if he plays a year or two he's 26 w no money and broke and married. It matters. But he does have an nil deal now. So who knows.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Man, that's a pretty big deal. I think both could have big seasons
Clarks gotta get his draft stock back up. He fell substantially with scouts this year. He needs a big season next year to make any money. Hancock is close to coming back but who knows how it'll go. I don't think he's gonna get drafted so he's gonna have to hope for a limited free agent deal if any. He may just be ready to get on with life and another career. I hope for our sake he comes back has a big year and gets drafted but who knows which way he's gonna go. He does have a pretty nice NIL deal so there's that.
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State fans: These guys suck and aren't clutch
Also State fans: Can't wait to get these guys back!
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
State fans: These guys suck and aren't clutch
Also State fans: Can't wait to get these guys back!
I get what you are saying. But I also see the need for some continuity rather than 8 new guys in the line up.
New Leadoff (LF or 2B)
New 2 hole (LF/2B/DH)
Hines 1B
Hancock C
Clark RF
James CF
New (LF/2B/DH)
Alford 3B
Forsythe SS
The middle of the line up would need to be flexible to keep 3,4, and 5 from all batting LH.
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Originally Posted by
TNDawg35
Why do people keep leaving Forsythe out? Everyone on here would have killed to have his defense and him hit .250 this year and the kid over .270 and was hitting almost .300 coming into the last series and still is elite in the field…
Forsythe SS
Hines 1b
Hancock C
Alford 3B
Clark RF
(Random order) That’s what we have so far. Now I bet Kam comes back and will be moved to CF. We need a 2B and another OF. Of course you take whoever is legit and wants to come. Tell everyone everything is open for business. Even catcher and 1b. Then you play the best period.
Re: Forsythe
People made up their mind on this kid failing and are unwilling to change their thoughts in light of evidence to the contrary. Same way the people who were seriously calling for Lemo & co's head at this point in time last year are now again yelling for changes because they're right and Lemo sucks in some way. They made their decision and are unwilling to change. They'll explain it away (not Lemo's recruits, Lane had limited AB's, etc. etc.)
Truth of the matter is Forsythe is showing improvement. He hasn't been an "SEC quality bat" but he needed some meat on his bones. A little better spray placement and plate discipiline though and he's a serviceable end of lineup bat with the defense to justify him being an everyday starter. Who would have thought it would just sometimes take a young kid to grow into it.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
State fans: These guys suck and aren't clutch
Also State fans: Can't wait to get these guys back!
Almost like this board is made up of several different people with differing opinions.
This is always the silliest critique of a group of people. We aren't some monolith. I can tell you for a fact there are several that I do not share hardly any opinions with on this board.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Fristoe has a big decision. He has too much talent to keep failing. He either has hope Fox can get him straight and he really likes Sville- or he needs to try playing somewhere else like LSU or A&M where he may get coached better.
Foxhall - wonder what happens if all the best talent on the roster enroll in Knoxville and College Station.
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