A reminder to all the coaches on here.

[Cowbell]

I have a different take than the majority on here. I'm fine with what the coaches did yesterday. I said it before the homerun. That loss is in no way on the coaches. Players have to make plays. The McGowan /Tanner exchange was poor. Not hitting for 7 innings was poor. Cumbest swinging at 3 balls with the bases loaded was poor. Pitchers not throwing strikes is poor.

I can't believe some of you haven't figured out what Lemonis is doing in these situations. He is bringing in players to make plays in pressure situations. Our bullpen is thin and everyone here can agree on that. If we don't have bullpen guys step up in pressure situations, we could go undefeated and it won't matter one bit in the postseason when you need day 3 and 4 pitchers more than ever. How many times have we seen pitchers who got shelled at times in the regular season all of a sudden become shut down in the postseason. Cole Gordon, Will Bednar, and our current Saturday starter are examples. Lemonis has to expose these kids to pressure situations to gain confidence, to mature, and to not fear failure. The first step to not failing is to not fear failure.

Remember our coaching staff won a natty with a team that was average at best many times during the regular season. They know what they are doing. The Long Game. This team has some pieces. But guys have to mature in pressure situations before we know what this team is capable of.

[MetEdDawg]

Yeah I'm in agreement. Right now is the time to see who has what it takes in what situations.

The problem I see right now is our margin is a lot thinner because we simply don't have the depth of talent I think we need to be a contender at this time. But Lemonis is going to let his players play and he's not going to give guys just one opportunity to get the job done if they fail. He's going to give them multiple chances before SEC play.

Do games right now matter? Sure. But if you go 18-12 in conference they matter a heck of a lot less. And you at least get to give guys chances to see who can do what and who you can trust.

We've got a lot of guys that can play and a lot of young guys. Let coach do his thing right now and we will see how it pans out in conference play. He's gonna bet on his players and give them chances right now.

[basedog]

I think and have said it's basically a "rebuild year". We lost 4 very good players from last year's team; I didn't see us replacing TA and IF Sims is done, he can't be replaced.

Yesterday was exactly what RP coined "that's baseball", I think we will have a roller coaster year.

Should be a very intense game today, I see Tulane with momentum after yesterday game, but I hope Cade pitches lightsout and we bring the bats back to the park today!

[Activated Alpha]

I agree with seeing who can provide strikes during pressure, but why couldn't it be done today after we clinched the series? It was 3 more outs and Simmons could have gotten those. Pitch Stinnett today if you need to see if he's got it mentally....

[basedog]

I agree with seeing who can provide strikes during pressure, but why couldn't it be done today after we clinched the series? It was 3 more outs and Simmons could have gotten those. Pitch Stinnett today if you need to see if he's got it mentally....

Good point. But let's hope we bounce back today and move forward, no doubt a few spots for players is coming together, like in who can and can't.

[MetEdDawg]

I agree with seeing who can provide strikes during pressure, but why couldn't it be done today after we clinched the series? It was 3 more outs and Simmons could have gotten those. Pitch Stinnett today if you need to see if he's got it mentally....

If it was after we clinch, didn't we just release some pressure? Therefore it's not an accurate measurement? Plus we might go out and win 20-2 today.

Remember, the coaches have watched these guys every day for years. Not just in games but in practice, scrimmages, etc. Every single day. You select guys for situations based on all that data you collect and you roll with them as long as you can. You don't let one or two letdowns undo months of work until you absolutely have to start making decisions, which for us is typically at the start of conference play.

Lemonis and Foxhall wanted Stinnett yesterday afternoon. That was decided before the game that if it's close he's gonna close it. Because that's the situation they need to evaluate him in and have data to say we think he can get the job done. Now they start adjusting those expectations as we get closer to go time.

[The Federalist Engineer]

The coaches let Tulane off the hook and sent the message that the ball game was over. But you are correct, MSU had lots of chances. Before the K in the 9th, Cumbest hit into a DP in the 1st inning with the bases loaded. MSU could have scored 20 again, but 10 is a good number, enough to win with SEC weekend pitching vs a Mid Major.

(1) Walker all the way to grand slam faces 4 batters
(2) Simmons gets a clean inning, then a hook?
(3) Auger gets the same treatment, scoreless inning, gets the hook

I get that Walker and Stinnett were Cy Young and Dennis Eckersley on Grambling but we need to save those talents for Jackson State and Mississippi Valley, not mail in a weekend game.

[Cowbell]

I agree with seeing who can provide strikes during pressure, but why couldn't it be done today after we clinched the series? It was 3 more outs and Simmons could have gotten those. Pitch Stinnett today if you need to see if he's got it mentally....

He was probably trying to save stone for using today too. But any situation with the series already won is not the same pressure.

[Cowbell]

If it was after we clinch, didn't we just release some pressure? Therefore it's not an accurate measurement? Plus we might go out and win 20-2 today.

Remember, the coaches have watched these guys every day for years. Not just in games but in practice, scrimmages, etc. Every single day. You select guys for situations based on all that data you collect and you roll with them as long as you can. You don't let one or two letdowns undo months of work until you absolutely have to start making decisions, which for us is typically at the start of conference play.

Lemonis and Foxhall wanted Stinnett yesterday afternoon. That was decided before the game that if it's close he's gonna close it. Because that's the situation they need to evaluate him in and have data to say we think he can get the job done. Now they start adjusting those expectations as we get closer to go time.

This is how I feel as well - great explanation

[Cowbell]

The coaches let Tulane off the hook and sent the message that the ball game was over. But you are correct, MSU had lots of chances. Before the K in the 9th, Cumbest hit into a DP in the 1st inning with the bases loaded. MSU could have scored 20 again, but 10 is a good number, enough to win with SEC weekend pitching vs a Mid Major.

(1) Walker all the way to grand slam faces 4 batters
(2) Simmons gets a clean inning, then a hook?
(3) Auger gets the same treatment, scoreless inning, gets the hook

I get that Walker and Stinnett were Cy Young and Dennis Eckersley on Grambling but we need to save those talents for Jackson State and Mississippi Valley, not mail in a weekend game.

The coaches didn't let Tulane off the hook. The players did that

[Mjoelner34]

How much more does he need to see when it's a senior with an ERA north of 8? I've got an idea, let's save Forsythe and pinch him in a pressure situation late in thr game while we are trailing. That would be the offensive equivalent of our pitching moves yesterday.

[maroonmania]

I have a different take than the majority on here. I'm fine with what the coaches did yesterday. I said it before the homerun. That loss is in no way on the coaches. Players have to make plays. The McGowan /Tanner exchange was poor. Not hitting for 7 innings was poor. Cumbest swinging at 3 balls with the bases loaded was poor. Pitchers not throwing strikes is poor.

I can't believe some of you haven't figured out what Lemonis is doing in these situations. He is bringing in players to make plays in pressure situations. Our bullpen is thin and everyone here can agree on that. If we don't have bullpen guys step up in pressure situations, we could go undefeated and it won't matter one bit in the postseason when you need day 3 and 4 pitchers more than ever. How many times have we seen pitchers who got shelled at times in the regular season all of a sudden become shut down in the postseason. Cole Gordon, Will Bednar, and our current Saturday starter are examples. Lemonis has to expose these kids to pressure situations to gain confidence, to mature, and to not fear failure. The first step to not failing is to not fear failure.

Remember our coaching staff won a natty with a team that was average at best many times during the regular season. They know what they are doing. The Long Game. This team has some pieces. But guys have to mature in pressure situations before we know what this team is capable of.

That's all fine and good but most likely we will be trying to play our way to Omaha in someone else's park come postseason. If we had gotten off to a better start then I could better live with trying folks out in situations even when they have not shown themselves to be reliable so far. We already have too many bad OOC losses not to have our most dependable guy on the mound in a tight game with the lead.

[KOdawg1]

I'm cool with calling this year a rebuild year, but I'll be interested to see what we'll call next year.

I disagree completely with the OP btw. We have 5 OOC losses. Stinnett has shown time after time he can't handle tough situations. It's on the coaches for taking Stone Simmons out. Just because they won a national championship last year doesn't mean they're exempt from making mistakes. They're still elite coaches. No one is saying they don't know what they're doing. But even Lemonis said it was probably mistake. He doesn't need people making excuses for him.

[Cowbell]

How much more does he need to see when it's a senior with an ERA north of 8? I've got an idea, let's save Forsythe and pinch him in a pressure situation late in thr game while we are trailing. That would be the offensive equivalent of our pitching moves yesterday.

That's what you don't get. It's not what he needs to see. It's he's trying to give these guys a chance to grow up and mature. You can't just say well this is who is good and we're gonna roll with them when you don't have enough people stepping up.

[Cowbell]

That's all fine and good but most likely we will be trying to play our way to Omaha in someone else's park come postseason. If we had gotten off to a better start then I could better live with trying folks out in situations even when they have not shown themselves to be reliable so far. We already have too many bad OOC losses not to have our most dependable guy on the mound in a tight game with the lead.

You can't have your cake and eat it too though when we don't have enough people stepping up early. You have to let them Pitch in tough situation's.

[Cowbell]

I'm cool with calling this year a rebuild year, but I'll be interested to see what we'll call next year.

I disagree completely with the OP btw. We have 5 OOC losses. Stinnett has shown time after time he can't handle tough situations. It's on the coaches for taking Stone Simmons out. Just because they won a national championship last year doesn't mean they're exempt from making mistakes. They're still elite coaches. No one is saying they don't know what they're doing. But even Lemonis said it was probably mistake. He doesn't need people making excuses for him.

It's not a rebuilding year if some of our bullpen pitchers could step up. That's the whole point of my post. This is the most power we have ever had on a team.

[Really Clark?]

The coaches didn't let Tulane off the hook. The players did that

It's not always an either / or scenario. Players can fail while the coaches make failing moves that doesn't put players in a good chance to succeed. You can have both happening and be correct to critique coaches and give much more blame to them (and as a coach, you take the blame for losses and the players get the credit for wins...you have to understand that is where many coaches come from when criticizing other coaches). At the end of the day when looking at the entire game and coaching moves, the Coach made poor decisions yesterday that cost us the game...regardless of what errors/mistakes the players made on the field, the game should have been won with better coaching decisions. And I think Lemonis is an outstanding coach...while also knowing that he will make mistakes that cost his teams games over his entire coaching career.

[Cooterpoot]

Players and coaches both put it on cruise control. That's a total lack of focus and leadership. I'm fine with using a ton of guys, but you don't sacrifice games to do it.

[Todd4State]

We also "need to see" if Simmons can close a game out.

There is a time and a place to do what they did.
That wasn't the time or place. If the game was 10-2 in the 8th or 9th and they want to bring in Stinnett- fine. 10-8 with the game on the line- no.

[KOdawg1]

Players and coaches both put it on cruise control. That's a total lack of focus and leadership. I'm fine with using a ton of guys, but you don't sacrifice games to do it.

This.