Seems to be some smoke around us considering Jackie Sherrill basketball version

[Commercecomet24]

Is Miller unemployed now?

Yeah he was fired last April from Arizona

[Turfdawg67]

What was it he did that was supposedly so bad? What is this baggage I keep hearing of?

Knowledge of booster payments to players... dumb for getting caught, I guess.

[Todd4State]

As a very casual basketball fan I'd like to see us hire someone that has an up tempo style and is able to play a variety of defenses- whether that's press, man to man or zone. And recruit at a high level.

Much like MSU football I'm not sure a conventional approach to the game is in our favor.

So if we hire Miller and he runs the same thing as Howland then meh.

[Coach34]

I want a young hungry coach, not a retread. I want a guy who can win with inferior players. I want shooting. I want up-tempo. I want Man 2 Man defense AND zone concepts. I want a real basketball coach.

Who is that guy willing to take the 12th best job in the SEC? One who is smalltime and very few contacts with Nike and Adidas? Small market guy with no ties to your main AAU circuit?

[R2Dawg]

I don't know who the guy needs to be but if a retread produces like Pearl or Rick Barnes or a few others, get him.

If you need a new up and comer who can get the talent - Nate Oates then go get him.

MSU basketball used to compete for SEC titles nearly every year. Now we compete for the cellar team. Got to do something.

[CaptainObvious]

I don't know who the guy needs to be but if a retread produces like Pearl or Rick Barnes or a few others, get him.

If you need a new up and comer who can get the talent - Nate Oates then go get him.

MSU basketball used to compete for SEC titles nearly every year. Now we compete for the cellar team. Got to do something.

Dang it. I was just about to point out that Pearl and Barnes turned out to be pretty good retreads.. they can coach AND recruit. Whoever heard of such a thing.

[SailingDawg]

Again?

We?re you around in the 90s and 2000s?

[Saltydog]

Again?

We were a pretty doggone good program! From 00-01 thru 09-10 we went to post season play 9 of 10 years! From 02-03 thru 08-09 we went to the NCAA tourney 6 of 8 years! We didn't set the woods on fire once we got there but you have to get their first!

[confucius say]

If we are the 12th best job in our own league, we should prob keep Howland. He has us in the tournament or on the bubble almost every year. Postseason every year after his first two years. What other 12th best job in a P5 conference can say that?

[Coach34]

If we are the 12th best job in our own league, we should prob keep Howland. He has us in the tournament or on the bubble almost every year. Postseason every year after his first two years. What other 12th best job in a P5 conference can say that?

Other than Mississippi or Georgia- who is our program better than?

SC made the FF a few years ago
Missouri has had a solid program. Maybe we are ahead of them
A&M has had some success recently. Maybe we can claim superiority.

We are maybeeeee 10th??????

[MoreCowbell]

Who is that guy willing to take the 12th best job in the SEC? One who is smalltime and very few contacts with Nike and Adidas? Small market guy with no ties to your main AAU circuit?

I am sure there is some lower level D1 coach out there who wants our job. You got Furman coach, North Texas coach. We need to find our basketball Lemonis.

[MoreCowbell]

I am fine with Miller but from what others have stated he runs a similar offense and defense to Howland. I can not sit through anymore of that shit.

[thf24]

I am sure there is some lower level D1 coach out there who wants our job. You got Furman coach, North Texas coach. We need to find our basketball Lemonis.

We aren't nearly the kind of basketball job that the legit rising stars are holding out for like we are in baseball. We're a whole lot more likely to land a Rick Ray than we are a Chris Lemonis going that route.

[Todd4State]

We aren't nearly the kind of basketball job that the legit rising stars are holding out for like we are in baseball. We're a whole lot more likely to land a Rick Ray than we are a Chris Lemonis going that route.

I agree with you but we should be able to do better than Rick Ray. His resume' coming in was a complete WTF? Clemson basketball? LOL.

[confucius say]

Other than Mississippi or Georgia- who is our program better than?

SC made the FF a few years ago
Missouri has had a solid program. Maybe we are ahead of them
A&M has had some success recently. Maybe we can claim superiority.

We are maybeeeee 10th??????

I'm not really disagreeing. I'm just saying howland has us NIT or NCAA every year after his first 2 seasons rebuilding from Ray. That's pretty good for the 12th best job in a P5 conference. Certainly better than our history.

[OLJWales]

I'm not really disagreeing. I'm just saying howland has us NIT or NCAA every year after his first 2 seasons rebuilding from Ray. That's pretty good for the 12th best job in a P5 conference. Certainly better than our history.

During Stans I remember being bettern UT, LSU, AL & AU ETC.... I refuse to believe we don't have the tools to make the changes they made. We "Married Up" with Howland but The Thrill is Gone so now we gotta find another Hottie to say I Do. Aint no reason we can't. That Ex AZ Cat is purring loud in my ear. His Resume is Awesome sprinkled with Gold Olympic Gear as a player, assistant and HC.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

How would any state fan not be thrilled if we hired Sean Miller? Silliness. It would be a grand slam hire.

[OLJWales]

How would any state fan not be thrilled if we hired Sean Miller? Silliness. It would be a grand slam hire.

Yep. And who cares what "Style" he coaches when you kick this much AS$?:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...-miller-1.html

[StarkVegasSteve]

So for the folks that do not want Miller for whatever reason you might have let?s do a quick run through of other possible candidates I have seen mentioned the most:

1. Pitino- would be on the level of Miller. An established P5 guy. This would be a home run hire.
2. McMahon- not coming. He will get the Louisville job.
3. Medved- Will never coach west of the Rockies.
4. Bob Richey- You may could get him but he had opportunities last offseason and did not leave Furman.
5. Grant McCasland- I think he would probably take it and is probably the most realistic non home run hire. However, he plays like Howland. Defense and half court offense. I actually put him a little above Richey in my mind because he comes from the Scott Drew coaching tree.


Like others have said we are probably the 12th or 13th best job in the conference at this point. Outside of Vandy and probably Missouri we have the worst arena in the conference. Our fan base is nonexistent. You have to be realistic about things. If we were Ole Miss(nice new arena) or even South Carolina(big arena, fan base shows up for the most part) I would feel better about who we could draw. It just is not like football where coaches just follow the money.

[confucius say]

How would any state fan not be thrilled if we hired Sean Miller? Silliness. It would be a grand slam hire.

His resume is less than howlands at the time we hired him.

I think what would make the difference is energizing the fan base, engaging the students and fan base so that fans show up and create a frenzied environment with students courtside in a newly renovated arena. Miller can do that. And I think that will help us win more than Miller replacing Howland from an X and O standpoint or a recruiting standpoint.