College Football Players to Sue for Employee Privileges

[Activated Alpha]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...?ocid=msedgntp

Saw this coming when they pushed and sued for the NIL deal out west. PAC-12 players are killing this sport and it won't stop there. College football is about to be a completely different beast than what it was a couple of decades ago....

[Dawgology]

Hahah. They don’t realize they already get more than most employees.

ETA: I like the idea. Just pull scholarships. Have them sign a buyout contract. Give them a salary and a signing bonus and let them figure out the rest with NIL deals. Of course, they will have to figure out how to remain in class and pay for tuition, books, room and board…but hey…they get paid like all the other adults now!!! It ALLLLLL equal now. They will even get health insurance (for 4 years) and 4 years towards state retirement (though it takes 8 years to get vested). Smart. Then there is no Title IX to deal with because there’s no federal aid. We can cut most women’s sports and save the university a ton of money.

[Commercecomet24]

Hahah. They don’t realize they already get more than most employees.

ETA: I like the idea. Just pull scholarships. Have them sign a buyout contract. Give them a salary and a signing bonus and let them figure out the rest with NIL deals. Of course, they will have to figure out how to remain in class and pay for tuition, books, room and board…but hey…they get paid like all the other adults now!!! It ALLLLLL equal now. They will even get health insurance (for 4 years) and 4 years towards state retirement (though it takes 8 years to get vested). Smart. Then there is no Title IX to deal with because there’s no federal aid. We can cut most women’s sports and save the university a ton of money.

This is about the only way this thing can work. What a mess they've created. Geez

[HoopsDawg]

What a disaster.

[parabrave]

Yep lets see how they like paying not only for Tuition and books but also got their room and board. Add in the food they eat, Steak, they should have to pay trainers for taping them, tutors for taking their test for them and all the extra crap they get that normal paying students don't. And as freshmen they should have to sign non competitive clauses.

[Maroonthirteen]

Do other university employees get scholarships for tuition and housing? No.

If they become university employees, then why do they have to enroll in school? They don't.

If they decide to enroll in school, they can attend class on their time. Pay out of their pocket just like every other employee at the school.

[Maroonthirteen]

If these college players are really worth so much money, Just start a minor league, for high school kids to skip college. If they can knock each other around at 18 at college, they can knock each other around at 18 for the Memphis Showboats, Birmingham Stallions... etc etc

If these players are really worth what they say they are.... the tv contract will come for this minor league and espn will dump the colleges. Hahahahahaha. Go for it nfl, players(D1 football and basketball only). Hahaha.

[FISHDAWG]

Yep lets see how they like paying not only for Tuition and books but also got their room and board. Add in the food they eat, Steak, they should have to pay trainers for taping them, tutors for taking their test for them and all the extra crap they get that normal paying students don't. And as freshmen they should have to sign non competitive clauses.

no transfer portal as a result ...... maybe those guys out on the left coast enjoy paying income taxes because that would only be fair

[Saltydog]

When you open some doors it's hard to ever completely shut them and that's exactly what's happened here! Where does it end?

[redstickdawg]

this may be the beginning of the end for widespread college sports, this could have major impacts upon women's sports especially. If athletes are employees you can hire or fire at will in some cases and also this is the possible beginning of a salary cap / structure as well. If they are employees and no longer students this eliminates the fa?ade of these athletes being students in many cases and moves everything to minor league status, the SEC is basically the minor league for the NFL right now.

If the US moves to the minor league model for college sports and stops calling the athletes students then they are nothing but employees and I can see minor league sports disassociating from colleges altogether. this is how most of the rest of the world does it, college is for education and minor leagues are for future professional sports stars development. College athletics in most other countries in club level and truly amateur.

[RiverCityDawg]

Do other university employees get scholarships for tuition and housing? No.

If they become university employees, then why do they have to enroll in school? They don't.

If they decide to enroll in school, they can attend class on their time. Pay out of their pocket just like every other employee at the school.

Yep. I've been saying that eventually players will just be employees on the school's football team. No obligation to be students, full on employees with a union, salary caps, etc.

[Maroonthirteen]

this may be the beginning of the end for widespread college sports, this could have major impacts upon women's sports especially. If athletes are employees you can hire or fire at will in some cases and also this is the possible beginning of a salary cap / structure as well. If they are employees and no longer students this eliminates the fa?ade of these athletes being students in many cases and moves everything to minor league status, the SEC is basically the minor league for the NFL right now.

If the US moves to the minor league model for college sports and stops calling the athletes students then they are nothing but employees and I can see minor league sports disassociating from colleges altogether. this is how most of the rest of the world does it, college is for education and minor leagues are for future professional sports stars development. College athletics in most other countries in club level and truly amateur.

Yeah, I can't believe this lawsuit will stand without including all sports. Regardless, with just two sports, I imagine the added expense of a payroll, employment taxes and health benefits with be a huge burden on the Universities and cause the Universities to cut out other minor net loss sports.

However, for the sake of conversation, I am trying to understand how anyone thinks this is possible. So, if you can make college players employees, and the sport minor leagues. I guess the thought is a school can operate a "department of athletics" just like a school operates a cafeteria???? It is a service the school is providing to feed the students. SO why not have a service to entertain the students and alumni?????? It would take years for alumni to accept this change. However, for a school to operate a payroll of 55-85 players and another 15 for basketball, the tv money, ticket prices would have to go up up and up. There would have to be some salary cap. Otherwise you get into a biding war for employees.

[Extendedcab]

When you open some doors it's hard to ever completely shut them and that's exactly what's happened here! Where does it end?

It ends with the complete destruction of college "amateur" sports!

[Commercecomet24]

When you open some doors it's hard to ever completely shut them and that's exactly what's happened here! Where does it end?

No end to it. Pandora's box.

[Maroonthirteen]

Also if players are employees, why would they be subjected to NCAA rules? They wouldn't.

For example, if Polk or a Fred Ross or Fitz wants to try the nfl, go ahead. Once they get cut, come on back to Starkville. We will hire you until you find another job or can't play.

Or former Alabama superstar is cut from the nfl at anytime or 26-28 yo. Hire them.

[OLJWales]

Why stop there? Yall seen the size and money involved with TX HS Football? They could throw in some child labor laws to boot.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Hahah. They don’t realize they already get more than most employees.

ETA: I like the idea. Just pull scholarships. Have them sign a buyout contract. Give them a salary and a signing bonus and let them figure out the rest with NIL deals. Of course, they will have to figure out how to remain in class and pay for tuition, books, room and board…but hey…they get paid like all the other adults now!!! It ALLLLLL equal now. They will even get health insurance (for 4 years) and 4 years towards state retirement (though it takes 8 years to get vested). Smart. Then there is no Title IX to deal with because there’s no federal aid. We can cut most women’s sports and save the university a ton of money.

Yeah, this is the work of radicals. There is no stopping this since there is so much money involved. Probably a lawyer feeding frenzy.

If they become contract, unionized employees with standardized benefits - universities will actually love it. More complexity, control, and it probably creates 20 new administrator jobs. Makes all the informal hucksters, bagmen, and con-men obsolete.

In fairness to the players, they are looking at the billions that the universities rake and their head coach living like a British Royal. Also, the players are not really students, the scholarship is a fake benefit cause most players have to major in stuff that enables football, not the other way around. It's like getting a free meal if you work at Pizza Hut, you get to eat what was going in the trash that night.

[HoopsDawg]

Yep lets see how they like paying not only for Tuition and books but also got their room and board. Add in the food they eat, Steak, they should have to pay trainers for taping them, tutors for taking their test for them and all the extra crap they get that normal paying students don't. And as freshmen they should have to sign non competitive clauses.

Let's not forget taxes for all of these extra benefits. And most employees have code of conduct clauses. And of course equal pay for women. So that would open up lawsuits if the women's equestrian teem is not getting equal pay to the football players. Would they get overtime for putting in extra work? deep rabbit hole.

[FISHDAWG]

would this make the schools liable for lawsuits if player X kicks a guy in the head after a bowl game ? ..... it has happened before

[Commercecomet24]

Imagine how much more bureacracy this will create. Taxes, lawyers, accountants, more government to make sure they get their share. This is a disaster of epic proportions.