Recruiting vs. Ole Miss

[Todd4State]

Coach O was always the elite recruiter for him... Kiffin may be the most overated coach out there. Im telling yall their biggest loss is/was Lebby...

Yep.

And the way Leach responded to them today is how I wish Dan had responded to them for years. Dan never understood the perception portion of recruiting at all. It's not a coincidence that Jacrius Clayton's recruitment played out almost exactly the same way MJ Daniel's did. I guarantee you that Ole Miss will think twice about playing hat/flipmas games with Leach.

Coach O was the main reason why Kiffin got his reputation like you said.

[Todd4State]

Yep and losing Corral.

Goes without saying. I wouldn't be surprised if Ealy and Broeker declare for the NFL draft too. We'll see.

[Todd4State]

Well I would say let him fill in for Chaney at recruiting but I think LSU is about to blame everything on him like ole Miss did freeze.

Coach O still has it made at LSU. He's going to essentially do the same thing that Ron Polk does for us in baseball. Except he's being paid millions more. I think LSU got out in front of everything more than Ole Miss did. Ole Miss didn't fire Freeze until they absolutely had no choice.

[Todd4State]

The fact that literally no other school wanted him prevented him from jumping ship. Keep up Johnny Reb...

Kiffin is going to have to prove that he can do it with players he actually recruited. AD's want some stability and a coach leaving every three years isn't going to provide that. He still tweets immature things. And I'm not sure that living off of the transfer portal is a sustainable way to go.

[Dak Holliday]

Kiffin is going to have to prove that he can do it with players he actually recruited. AD's want some stability and a coach leaving every three years isn't going to provide that. He still tweets immature things. And I'm not sure that living off of the transfer portal is a sustainable way to go.

Well, he better get to recruiting defense. Durkin must be hard to play for because they?re hemorrhaging defensive players into the portal. Some could be due to them recruiting so poorly on D, but it doesn?t make sense to run them off without replacement in hand.

[TUSK]

Kiffin is going to have to prove that he can do it with players he actually recruited. AD's want some stability and a coach leaving every three years isn't going to provide that. He still tweets immature things. And I'm not sure that living off of the transfer portal is a sustainable way to go.

It's not, Todd. However (akin to JUCOs), it is a "quick fix"/"stop gap"/"build quickly" type strategy that's going to make some teams much better almost overnight...

However, that shit will blow up eventually... (See: JWS & Jucos)... [tick*3]

[TNDawg35]

You have to have something to jump too before you can jump to it and Kiffin didn't have that opportunity.

This? I think Kiffin would have jumped, but no one wanted him. He was Miami?s 2nd choice and apparently Oregon would rather have a unproven DC than him. That should tell you something. He did exactly what Mullen did. He shipped his name around and interviewed for a couple, but there was no takers.

Let?s see what kind of OC they get. No one will take Durkin so he is safe, but he may not have any talent left to coach after this off season with their guys hitting the portal?

But the CL said it?s all part of the plan?***

[Dak Holliday]

Kiffin seems to be banking on the portal. I will be interested in seeing how this works out. Traditionally, it?s worked well for OM, especially at QB. They were much better this year on D because of transfer players. I wonder if they don?t embrace that Mercenary U mentality, become the D1 equivalent of Last Chance U. I?d like to think it?s unsustainable, but with as new as the portal is, I don?t know that there?s been enough time to judge it?s value as a commodity. Do portal players affect rankings? If not, OM fans will struggle. Winning on signing day will be a thing of the past.

[Commercecomet24]

It's not, Todd. However (akin to JUCOs), it is a "quick fix"/"stop gap"/"build quickly" type strategy that's going to make some teams much better almost overnight...

However, that shit will blow up eventually... (See: JWS & Jucos)... [tick*3]

I believe you're right.

[FANACTICFAN]

Rivals has us at #15 class and them 23.

247 is showing us at 23 and them at 22

Not bad going up against an?elite recruiter? in Kiffin as the media says?

MSU has 22 signees compared to 19 signees for OM.

[OhGee]

Anybody realize that this, the worst Ole Miss class in recent history is the first they?ve had without Yancy Porter pulling strings?

I?ve doubted how much he really contributed to crootin. But fancy coincidence this class is.

[Todd4State]

It's not, Todd. However (akin to JUCOs), it is a "quick fix"/"stop gap"/"build quickly" type strategy that's going to make some teams much better almost overnight...

However, that shit will blow up eventually... (See: JWS & Jucos)... [tick*3]

I totally agree. It's hard for a MSU or Ole Miss to win mostly through the portal. People talk about how many players are in the portal but the reality is it's actually a fairly limited group and everyone is competing for the best of the best. The problem is you end up with a small core of high school players to build around. When you sign 15 high school guys- some of those are bound to not pan out which happens to everyone every year. And eventually you end up with a small senior class at some point. It takes awhile to cycle that out.

[Todd4State]

Kiffin seems to be banking on the portal. I will be interested in seeing how this works out. Traditionally, it?s worked well for OM, especially at QB. They were much better this year on D because of transfer players. I wonder if they don?t embrace that Mercenary U mentality, become the D1 equivalent of Last Chance U. I?d like to think it?s unsustainable, but with as new as the portal is, I don?t know that there?s been enough time to judge it?s value as a commodity. Do portal players affect rankings? If not, OM fans will struggle. Winning on signing day will be a thing of the past.

Actually the last two QB's that they got as transfers were Jevan Snead and Jeremiah Masoli. They have had a lot of luck from the JUCO ranks- Bo Wallace, Chad Kelly, and Tu'amu.

Ole Miss had a lot of seniors and a Heisman contender at QB, a RB who could declare for the NFL and a LT that could declare for the NFL. Having that much experience is a recipe for success.

[BrunswickDawg]

Actually the last two QB's that they got as transfers were Jevan Snead and Jeremiah Masoli. They have had a lot of luck from the JUCO ranks- Bo Wallace, Chad Kelly, and Tu'amu.

Ole Miss had a lot of seniors and a Heisman contender at QB, a RB who could declare for the NFL and a LT that could declare for the NFL. Having that much experience is a recipe for success.

That Senior laden team this season begs a question - Where would they have been with Matt Luke the past 2 years? The Piss & Miss team was mostly FR and SO and were the bulk of the 2021 team. If Luke, Rich Rod and MacIntyre had been left in place, would they have had similar results the past 2 years? I'm not saying Matt Luke is a better coach than Lane Kiffin - but you could tell that that team had some talent. Would the continuity of coaching and a talented SR laden team done as well for them?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Ole Miss signed 3 in state kids today. Three.

I think the key to winning is taking such emphasis off of having to get instate guys. A team full of Mississippi talent ain't winning at a high clip.

[OLJWales]

I think the key to winning is taking such emphasis off of having to get instate guys. A team full of Mississippi talent ain't winning at a high clip.

Not being able to land instate SEC Talent while losing them to your instate rival is a recipe for failure.

[Schultzy]

Anyone else hearing Bo Nix to OM? I don’t think he can throw it well enough to maintain what they did offensively this year.

[Extendedcab]

I don't think he can take a hit without falling apart. His accuracy before he was sacked right before halftime, of the MSU game, and after is like night and day.

[Catfish]

I don't think he can take a hit without falling apart. His accuracy before he was sacked right before halftime, of the MSU game, and after is like night and day.

If I'm not mistaken he broke his ankle on that play.

[Catfish]

Not being able to land instate SEC Talent while losing them to your instate rival is a recipe for failure.

Agree, nothing wrong with a roster full of Mississippi boys.