Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
As long as Freeze won't admit what he did (beyond some generic "I didn't honor my wife BS") and continues to grift gullible evangelicals by speaking at conferences and lining his own pockets with his vague story of "redemption," I'm just not going to believe he's repented.

Ultimately of course, it doesn't matter whether I believe him, but that's where I am.
Well, some would believe that a person doesn't have to repent in public for redemption. Others could argue that any religion is mumbo jumbo.

To me it is this clear, should a person deserve forgiveness in the public for transgressions they have made, without coming clean about those transgressions? I say no. Freeze does not get a free pass. Freeze does not get to stand up and talk about his personal redemption without being clear about the facts. A person like him should demand any an all that know something about him to come on out with it. At that point, he can work to better himself in public. Not before. The full story of that situation has not come out, he has admitted nothing, and therefore the public has no responsibility to forgive him.

Can I forgive him personally, sure. I hold not ill will towards Freeze or anyone else for that matter. So he may have cheated on his wife, well shit happens. So he may have hired hookers for a 16-18 year old high school student, it is not like these guys are 7 years old. Either way, until he comes out publicly with his exact role, he should be black balled. At the point that he does come out with it, depending on what it is, he still should be black balled.

Either way, I am not losing a moment's thought about Hugh Freeze and his redemption. That is between him and God, and then "as a public figure" between him and the public.