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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentSteel16 View Post
    You sir, are 100% correct.

    The issue was the poster was calling a preacher whom was doing what he is paid and called to do a low life. The poster was responding and quoted someone saying Saban was a low life. The poster then said not only Saban but the preacher at Pinelake too. That is my point of contention.

    Chip (Pinelake Rez pastor) never once said that Freeze should be coaching or in a position as such. He was talking on a personal level. He was defending the man from onslaughts on his person(which he did deserve.) Chip even referenced Paul who as you well know killed Christians prior to becoming a disciple of Christ. Do I believe Freeze screwed up, YES. As does Chip at Pinelake, but that still does not give us the right to judge him. How does it go? Those without sin cast the first stone…
    You're taking a lot of liberty with my statement, in no way was I criticizing Chip (whom I've known for more than two decades), I was just making the point that others of high standing, beside's Saban (where did I infer he was a "low life"?) were standing by Freeze. I've always had a uneasy feeling about Freeze, but I'm not judging what he has done nor his spirituality (I have no reason to judge him, but a major peeve of mine is hypocrisy which I think he is full of). My gut is there was more to what he has done than publicly known, else he would have gotten a major job by now, but I don't know that.

    As an aside, Chip is a good guy and great preacher, but as a whole don't put too much faith in religious leaders. I know of other lay leaders in several different churches who did much less than Freeze was accused of, but were asked to "step away" and focus on themselves after a transgression.
    Last edited by viverlibre; 12-08-2021 at 02:31 PM.

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