Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
It's not irrelevant. Public trust is a valuable asset. The vaccination rate is much lower than it would be if they had not squandered it by being corrupt and incompetent.


It's not about not caring, it's about recognizing what's an appropriate role of the threat or use of force. I get my flu vaccine every year not because I am worried about myself but because I am don't want to pass it on to people that are susceptible to the flu. But I recognize that it's not legitimate to use the threat of force to make people get a flu vaccine.

No, many people are under the mistaken impression that freedom doesn't have any negative consequences. It'd be better if people didn't go interact with the public when they feel like shit. But we don't go around arresting and beating people that are out with colds and potentially the flu. It'd be better if they were more responsible, but most people are not dense enough to think that giving the government the power to go around arresting them is an improvement. We choose freedom even though there are times people use it poorly.

Some people are scared to death of COVID, and they think that excuses them being huge assholes. As is the case with the flu and the common cold, some people are really ass holes about what risks they expose other people to. There are ass holes everywhere everyday and neither force nor the threat of force is the appropriate response in the vast majority of situations.
See, there you go again. Its about people "scared to death of Covid, and they think that excuses them being huge assholes". A, no mention here that this is about immunocompromised people who have legitimate concerns, and B, they're being "huge assholes" by wanting people to......checks notes.....get a vaccine and wear a mask. Also C, "threat of force"? All I'm aware of is people losing their jobs. You suddenly against employing at will now? Because that level of hypocrisy would be entirely on brand for you.

And I'm not even going to go into the tinfoil hat stuff of the govt is corrupt and incompetent because they won't admit to the crazy things I heard they did. The vax rate is low because the GOP took a stand that way, and their sheep followed. Some misstatement by Fauci or whatever had nothing to do with it. Those sheep sure aint scared of Regeneron. Where's the lack of trust effect there?