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10-19-2021, 02:51 PM
#181
Originally Posted by
William Tecumsah Sherman
Does the vaccine lessen your chance of passing it? Or does it just lessen the severity of it if you get symptoms? Honest question
It lessens your chance of passing it because you are less likely to get it. The figures vary on that but the least I have seen is you are 6 1/2 times less likely to get if you have been vaccinated with any of our three. I saw an article where they had that broken down by type. Moderna was the best, followed by Pfizer, and then the J&J. It also lessens your symptoms so that helps too. It's even better at keeping you out of the hospital.
and the morgue. If we could get universal uptake this would revert to something resembling a bad seasonal flu overall. We function normally during that.
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10-19-2021, 02:52 PM
#182
How do we trust them while they fly and resettle illegal aliens by the thousands all over our country monthly with no tests or vac shots? Splain dat shit.
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10-19-2021, 02:52 PM
#183
Originally Posted by
confucius say
I hear ya. Let's start by penalizing all obese people and jacking up their insurance rates, as more tax money is spent on them yearly than other medical condition.
We already do that. For smoking, drinking, and age also among other things.
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10-19-2021, 02:53 PM
#184
Originally Posted by
OLJWales
How do we trust them while they fly and resettle illegal aliens by the thousands all over our country monthly with no tests or vac shots? Splain dat shit.
Agree with you there.
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10-19-2021, 02:54 PM
#185
Originally Posted by
msstate7
If your wife is fat, you pay more for insurance.
If your wife is fat, aren't you already paying?**
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10-19-2021, 02:54 PM
#186
just wait until everyone's company starts hitting them with extra no-vaxx surcharges on their health insurance plans. principles can get expensive.
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10-19-2021, 02:55 PM
#187
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
That's absolutely outrageous. SMH. That's the kind of crap that makes people distrust the vaccine or any efforts thereof. Nothing to see here.
That is what they want. who is "they" anyone in power that wants more power. Anything that they can do to make all of us at odds with one another is good for them, create the problem wait awhile for most people to be so mad at their neighbor and then come out with the solution I.E. more regulation or more government either or equals more power for them and less power for you in your life.
Things like this we have to be on the same page about, at the end of the day we live in a country that was created for really one goal and that was self governance. Anytime the government steps in and tells us what we can and cannot do is a overreach of our constitution. Call me crazy, I don't care, this will not end well for any of us if we keep fighting about it. The moment we stop arguing about this and understand that a high level of personal freedom comes with a high level of potential of getting hurt by someone that isn't masked or what not and accept it. The better off we will be, because then we can really pay attention to what the evil in this world is trying to do to us as individuals.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
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10-19-2021, 02:55 PM
#188
Originally Posted by
msstate7
oh good grief, why am I not surprised considering the poster.
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10-19-2021, 02:56 PM
#189
Originally Posted by
Johnson85
If your wife is fat, aren't you already paying?**
Yes
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10-19-2021, 02:57 PM
#190
Originally Posted by
William Tecumsah Sherman
Does the vaccine lessen your chance of passing it? Or does it just lessen the severity of it if you get symptoms? Honest question
Find the answer, please let me know. I bet it doesn't doesn't do a thing about lessoning, if it did you bet the media would be pounding that into the sand as well.
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10-19-2021, 02:58 PM
#191
Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
oh good grief, why am I not surprised considering the poster.
So you are cool with employers not reporting side effects? Are side effects part of a right winged conspiracy?
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10-19-2021, 02:59 PM
#192
Originally Posted by
OLJWales
How do we trust them while they fly and resettle illegal aliens by the thousands all over our country monthly with no tests or vac shots? Splain dat shit.
and give them a stipend via your tax dollars.
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10-19-2021, 03:00 PM
#193
Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Actually you can't all of a sudden adopt a "sincere religious belief" to get around something you don't like. It has to be a previously held belief that you have evidence of. It also generally has to be consistent with a known religious sect and you must have had a previous and current association with that sect. You can't just make up your own religion to get out of something.
Holy shit. You'd think being wrong so often would cause you to at least google before you go wading off into something you clearly know nothing about. But I will give you the "often wrong, never in doubt" approach is very on brand for you. And in your defense, why shouldn't a career as a nurse practitioner teach you all you need to know about the law.
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10-19-2021, 03:02 PM
#194
Originally Posted by
OLJWales
So you are cool with employers not reporting side effects? Are side effects part of a right winged conspiracy?
You realize there is already a federal vaccine side effects depository (not to mention the media, which salivates over such stories)? Do we need a second Department of Labor one, or can we unburden business by cutting that red tape? That grifter Tweeter is leaving out a lot in order to rile you up like you want to be.
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10-19-2021, 03:09 PM
#195
Originally Posted by
OLJWales
How do we trust them while they fly and resettle illegal aliens by the thousands all over our country monthly with no tests or vac shots? Splain dat shit.
That is another reason people distrust our govt on this issue. I'm not sure why we don't mandate vaccines for everyone at the border
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10-19-2021, 03:09 PM
#196
Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
We already do that. For smoking, drinking, and age also among other things.
Not for obesity that I'm aware. Which costs more than the others.
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10-19-2021, 03:12 PM
#197
Originally Posted by
Johnson85
Holy shit. You'd think being wrong so often would cause you to at least google before you go wading off into something you clearly know nothing about. But I will give you the "often wrong, never in doubt" approach is very on brand for you. And in your defense, why shouldn't a career as a nurse practitioner teach you all you need to know about the law.
I've tried. He won't listen.
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10-19-2021, 03:14 PM
#198
Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
You realize there is already a federal vaccine side effects depository (not to mention the media, which salivates over such stories)? Do we need a second Department of Labor one, or can we unburden business by cutting that red tape? That grifter Tweeter is leaving out a lot in order to rile you up like you want to be.
Burden businesses by requiring vaccine mandates and for the businesses to document it and to ensure it, but don't burden them by making them report side effects. Got it.
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10-19-2021, 03:15 PM
#199
Originally Posted by
confucius say
That is another reason people distrust our govt on this issue. I'm not sure why we don't mandate vaccines for everyone at the border
It is encouraged, but a mandate is a no-win scenario for the federal government. You'd have the "personal freedom" crowd spitting venom if it were required, as well as the "America First" crowd angry if we were giving American vaccines to foreigners.
Obviously I would still support such a rule, but I recognize that I'm not the one taking heat for the decisions.
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10-19-2021, 03:16 PM
#200
One other question. We do know a vaccine mandate (with exceptions) passed by a state legislature has stood up in court (Jacobson v Massachusetts), so why has no state legislature passed a law requiring the covid vaccine?
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