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Originally Posted by
thf24
I'm not sold whatsoever on Kentucky. Their only decent win is Florida who they beat with barely more than 200 yards of offense, and they were down to an FCS team in the 4th quarter two weeks ago.
That's sorta their game though, isn't it? They did hold Florida to less yards and points than bama did. They beat us by 3 TDs last year, and they only had 157 yds
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I think y'all are severely overrating Kentucky and underrating Arkansas. No one is going to look good against UGA this year, except possibly Bama. Arkansas' year has been far more impressive so far than UK's.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
That's sorta their game though, isn't it? They did hold Florida to less yards and points than bama did. They beat us by 3 TDs last year, and they only had 157 yds
Sure, but it takes a lot more to inspire confidence when your game is depending on your opponent to make mistakes. I guess there's something to be said for consistently taking advantage, though.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I think y'all are severely overrating Kentucky and underrating Arkansas. No one is going to look good against UGA this year, except possibly Bama. Arkansas' year has been far more impressive so far than UK's.
That's why I said it depends on how we're ranking them. Is it like a AP voter type of ranking, or what we actually think? If it's the first, you have to give Kentucky some credit. If it's the latter, then no, I don't think Kentucky is a top 5 SEC team. Probably close though. Arkansas looks pretty good too, but all we really know is they beat A&M and Texas and lost to Georgia. We beat A&M too, and who knows if Texas is actually good or not.
Really, Its too early to know these things. It's all speculation at the point, and will remain that way to some degree as the SEC beats itself up like usual.
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Originally Posted by
thf24
I'm not sold whatsoever on Kentucky. Their only decent win is Florida who they beat with barely more than 200 yards of offense, and they were down to an FCS team in the 4th quarter two weeks ago.
They're a team that can beat anybody not named Bama or UGA but also isn't going to blow anybody out and could lose any game they play.
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
They're a team that can beat anybody not named Bama or UGA but also isn't going to blow anybody out and could lose any game they play.
Sounds like us, although I do believe we'll beat TSU and Vandy, for sure.
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I still believe we beat KY.
Fla had 15 penalties. 8 false starts. Sellout crowd had an impact.
KY scored on a block fg return. Had 87 yards passing and only 224 total yards.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Sounds like us, although I do believe we'll beat TSU and Vandy, for sure.
I'd say the difference is our ability to beat or lose to almost anyone lies within our control in terms of executing and limiting mistakes, while Kentucky appears dependent on the opponent to make the mistakes they can take advantage of in many of its recent wins.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Sounds like us, although I do believe we'll beat TSU and Vandy, for sure.
I guess the difference is we will apparently have just a WTF game every year with Leach but generally will score. UK is going to play with fire almost every game because they can't score and are relying on defense and not making mistakes.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
I still believe we beat KY.
Fla had 15 penalties. 8 false starts. Sellout crowd had an impact.
KY scored on a block fg return. Had 87 yards passing and only 224 total yards.
The thing that scares me about Kentucky is their tendency to hit Wandale Robinson for the long ball. We need to insure that he stays covered
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
I guess the difference is we will apparently have just a WTF game every year with Leach but generally will score. UK is going to play with fire almost every game because they can't score and are relying on defense and not making mistakes.
They actually avg more ppg than we do. They did last year too
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Bama and UGA are heads above anyone else........
I still think UF is the 3rd best team......UM 4th..........UK 5th.......
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
They actually avg more ppg than we do. They did last year too
They average 1 more point than us and have played the 87th SOS compared to our 12th per Sagarin. They've played three of the worst defenses in football in Mizzou, ulm, and and an fcs opponent. The only two defenses with a pulse they've played they scored 20 vs Fla (7 on a return) and 16 against usce.
It will be a close game. Like all of our games.
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Originally Posted by
thf24
I'd say the difference is our ability to beat or lose to almost anyone lies within our control in terms of executing and limiting mistakes, while Kentucky appears dependent on the opponent to make the mistakes they can take advantage of in many of its recent wins.
I thinks that's a valid point. Agreed.
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
I guess the difference is we will apparently have just a WTF game every year with Leach but generally will score. UK is going to play with fire almost every game because they can't score and are relying on defense and not making mistakes.
Yep I think you and thf24 nailed it on that.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
They average 1 more point than us and have played the 87th SOS compared to our 12th per Sagarin. They've played three of the worst defenses in football in Mizzou, ulm, and and an fcs opponent. The only two defenses with a pulse they've played they scored 20 vs Fla (7 on a return) and 16 against usce.
It will be a close game. Like all of our games.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa/fplus/2021
Hasn't been updated this week, but advanced metrics say Kentucky has a better offense and we have the better defense... overall, very close teams
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UF should be 3 but that was not a good loss for them even if Kentucky is pretty good. It could cost them the Sugar Bowl because they'll end up with 3 losses unless UGA shits the bed. Arkansas is not set up on offense to compete with UGA so that game wasn't surprising. I didn't get to see the Ole Miss game but I was surprised to see that they didn't score until it was 35-0.
I say right now:
3 - UF
4 - UK
5 - Winner of Sharks/Hogs
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Kentucky plays a lot like we did under Mullen. Good defense, just enough offense. Wear you down and frustrate the hell out of you. Hard to figure out just how good they are. Most people think they aren't good until UK beats their team. Unfortunately we used to be what they are this year...a team that expected to win our matchup with them, and was quietly building a damn strong and consistent program. Hopefully we can get back to that soon. I thought we should have beaten them all of the last several years, but we found ways not to, so I won't predict a win....but it's definitely a game that looks possible.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm seeing it as showing our offense is ranked 50 and KY 60. And our defense 19 and KY 22.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
I'm seeing it as showing our offense is ranked 50 and KY 60. And our defense 19 and KY 22.
It updated. It also moved us ahead of them overall. They were a spot or 2 ahead of us, and now they're 2 spots behind us.
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