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    Quote Originally Posted by trob115 View Post
    1.) take the 3 points after the Forbes int to open the 3rd quarter.

    2.) kick the extra point after the holding call on the 2 point attempt

    3.) Rogers inability to see down the field. Will held onto the ball way too long and cost us several times today. 4 plays he has guys wide open downfield and doesn't pull the trigger. This offense will not work until Robertson or Greek are in control. Rogers does not have the physical tools necessary to win in this league. Sure, his numbers look okay, but it's more about the throws he's not able to make to make this offense run effectively. Bucky will be along to correct me on this, but anyone that is objective can see that Will lacks arm strength that is needed.
    4) I would add do not kick the second onside (after the 17ing on the first one) when they knew it was coming. We had TOs and 3m. Imagine stopping them at their 35yl, well outside of FG range. Another scenario in which we win the game in spite of the officiating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Again 7 is trolling me and twisting my words. I said he is the best passing QB in the history of the school. And he is. He is far and away better than Dak was as a passer as a Soph. That is not a debate unless you are a message board troll with 60 thousand posts, or a message board Todd mcshay wanna be with 30 thousand posts. I clearly said Dak was a better player go back and look, maybe your analytical skills are better than your comprehension
    holy cow. I wont call you stupid because you love your son. I get it.

    But if Dak got to throw the ball 55 times a Saturday he would be much better than Rogers. Rogers is nowhere close to being a top half SEC QB. Hell- he's not a top half D-1 QB. Every QB in the country can throw dump downs to RB's 20 times a Saturday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    holy cow. I wont call you stupid because you love your son. I get it.

    But if Dak got to throw the ball 55 times a Saturday he would be much better than Rogers. Rogers is nowhere close to being a top half SEC QB. Hell- he's not a top half D-1 QB. Every QB in the country can throw dump downs to RB's 20 times a Saturday
    I will call you stupid or you have memory loss issues (maybe both) if you can sit there as a real life football coach and think that Dak Prescott as a sophomore could throw the ball and go thru his progressions like Will is right now. The Qb guru wouldnt out right start him over Tyler Russell who was a fish out of water till late that year. Yall must have had a late one last night. And for the record, we both know that 65 pass attempts is way too many for anyone.

    Btw again,not my kid.

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    Will Rogers gonna have some really good stats for a QB on a 4-8 team.

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    Another thing not being talked about is, Memphis was more physical than State. Memphis!!!! State goes down with one hit. Memphis got yards after contact. It's another reason State can't get yardage in short down and distance.

    When State gets in SEC play vs more talented DLs and LBs.... and if State is in goal to goal....the redZone efficiency will be ugly. Leach better learn to use that kicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNDawg35 View Post
    Like I said before, this offense will never run at full potential as long as he is running it. There are WAY too
    Many open receivers downfield that instead of throwing to them, he checks down or holds the ball?
    The first thing fans do call for the team MVP - the backup QB. Our backup QB won't fix this dumpster fire. Will is setting records. Yes Will has flaws but he ain't the main reason this O sucks. He is executing Leach's system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    holy cow. I wont call you stupid because you love your son. I get it.

    But if Dak got to throw the ball 55 times a Saturday he would be much better than Rogers. Rogers is nowhere close to being a top half SEC QB. Hell- he's not a top half D-1 QB. Every QB in the country can throw dump downs to RB's 20 times a Saturday
    Bingo. Well Will misses a lot of dump downs too or makes RB make circus catches. But, Will ain't the issue, he is running the O Leach wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Again 7 is trolling me and twisting my words. I said he is the best passing QB in the history of the school. And he is. He is far and away better than Dak was as a passer as a Soph. That is not a debate unless you are a message board troll with 60 thousand posts, or a message board Todd mcshay wanna be with 30 thousand posts. I clearly said Dak was a better player go back and look, maybe your analytical skills are better than your comprehension
    I don't think so pal. He may throw for more yards than them, but Dave Marler, Tony Shell, and even Kevin Fant would have been way more effective as passers in this offense than Rogers. Hell, maybe even Todd Jordan. I forgot about Derrick Taite. He could throw the damn ball downfield. Again, I have no problem with Rogers, but you have to be kin to him or something with the way you defend him.
    Last edited by msudawg1200; 09-19-2021 at 08:38 AM.

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    Will Rogers was recruited to be Garrett Shrader's backup under Moorhead. He had offers from Wazzu, Tulane, and Troy. We ended up hiring one of the few other coaches that offered him, and he's the best we have right now. I don't hate him. I think he's doing the best he can. But there's a reason he was an 86 rated 3 star with no SEC or other P5 offers (besides Wazzu). He's not a move the needle QB.

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    Will was not accurate yesterday. He usually is.

    But He wasn't the reason we lost. Marks fumble for a TD, punt return td, two missed extra points, not taking the 3. It's a 34-17 game if we just don't do stupid stuff, even with will struggling. Give them a garbage TD and it's still a 10 point win in a game we were favored by 3.

    Also, the OL had 7 penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Another thing not being talked about is, Memphis was more physical than State. Memphis!!!! State goes down with one hit. Memphis got yards after contact. It's another reason State can't get yardage in short down and distance.

    When State gets in SEC play vs more talented DLs and LBs.... and if State is in goal to goal....the redZone efficiency will be ugly. Leach better learn to use that kicker.
    THIS!! I made this exact observation last night in another thread. I've never seen softer RB's and wideouts than ours. They go down soooooooo easily. Would love to compare yards-after-contact between the two teams last night.

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