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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Since most of our best JUCOs lately have been D1 kickbacks, the immediate transfer rule is going to destroy JUCO. Abram & Sweat wouldn't have gone to JUCO
    Oh wow, I hadn't evne though of that. But yeah, all the good players will just transfer to another P5 now, not go JuCo which is the only advantage MS has

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Since most of our best JUCOs lately have been D1 kickbacks, the immediate transfer rule is going to destroy JUCO. Abram & Sweat wouldn't have gone to JUCO
    You're correct. They wouldn't have gone to Juco they would have come straight to MSU with an additional year to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    You're correct. They wouldn't have gone to Juco they would have come straight to MSU with an additional year to play.
    I don't think that's true.

    I think the MS JUCO system brought kids to MS & made them comfortable here. What reason would Sweat have had to come to MSU after leaving Michigan State & being from Atlanta?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    You're correct. They wouldn't have gone to Juco they would have come straight to MSU with an additional year to play.
    probably would have still gotten Abram, not Sweat. Probably not Rivers. Juco system is not the advantage it once was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    NIL basically ends the "impermissible benefits" arm of enforcement. The NCAA is basically dead now and will be officially within a few years. NIL destroyed their sole reason to exist.
    Yeah. The problem is will our boosters figure that out or is it going to take 5-6 years for them to figure it out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    Oh wow, I hadn't evne though of that. But yeah, all the good players will just transfer to another P5 now, not go JuCo which is the only advantage MS has
    Well if we're not going to play the game and by all appearances we aren't we're going to have to rely heavily on JUCO AND the portal both.

    I agree about JUCO not having as many players as they did before the portal but there are still going to be some late bloomers or guys that played at some random 1A school that didn't go to camps his senior year in high school that can help us.

    Of course with the portal the good news is we can get some guys like Cole Smith and Lashley back or guys without having to wait on them in JUCO.

    If our boosters keep operating the way they are I seriously think we need to shift back to Jackie style recruiting in the 1990's and get like 10-15 high school guys, about 5 JUCO's and 5 transfers from the portal every year. Yeah- I know recruiting like that jacked up our numbers but recruiting like that also led to our run in the late 1990's and Dan's best class maybe was the one that produced Sweat and Abrams. At least it led to the best defense we've had since 1999 anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I don't think that's true.

    I think the MS JUCO system brought kids to MS & made them comfortable here. What reason would Sweat have had to come to MSU after leaving Michigan State & being from Atlanta?
    Because we would have been one of the few SEC teams to give him a chance, and he's from Atlanta. We've signed players from his high school before. He was well informed about Mississippi state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    probably would have still gotten Abram, not Sweat. Probably not Rivers. Juco system is not the advantage it once was.
    You're contradicting your own statement. If it wasn't an advantage they wouldn't have signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    You're contradicting your own statement. If it wasn't an advantage they wouldn't have signed.
    SMH

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    Picked up a DB yesterday about to flip a DB from Michigan State. Also in on some OL prospects that could pull the trigger this fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    Picked up a DB yesterday about to flip a DB from Michigan State. Also in on some OL prospects that could pull the trigger this fall.
    How dare you bring optimism here

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