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08-11-2021, 10:44 AM
#141
Last edited by msstate7; 08-11-2021 at 10:46 AM.
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08-11-2021, 11:14 AM
#142
So the way I understand it is every patient that comes into a hospital regardless of reason is asked if vaccinated and also a test is run. So patient is admitted for back pain and then test positive for C19 they are now counted as a C19 patient. That one reason for increase in hospitalization
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08-11-2021, 11:21 AM
#143

Originally Posted by
Dawgfan77
So the way I understand it is every patient that comes into a hospital regardless of reason is asked if vaccinated and also a test is run. So patient is admitted for back pain and then test positive for C19 they are now counted as a C19 patient. That one reason for increase in hospitalization
Everybody admitted to the hospital is tested. If they test positive they ARE a COVID patient because they have to be treated as such.
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08-11-2021, 11:23 AM
#144

Originally Posted by
BorneDawg
Ivemectrin and hydroxyclorquine way more effective than vaccine and hardly any side-affects ! the Drs that invented the mRNA stuff say its not safe! the test are about to be pulled cause they cant differentiate between flu and covid. meanwhile the 2 I mentioned have been around for many decades and have a great track record.......... So quit telling us to get a dangerous unproven experimental shot that ISNT a vaccine at ALL!!!!!!!
Every single thing in that post is false.
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08-11-2021, 11:24 AM
#145

Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Oh ... not very hard if the data is accurate. That's the question. Lots of "science" everyone was on board with last year where the data wasn't accurate, reports were wrong, articles were wrong, etc.
But ... you keep having an absolute opinion on any f***ing thing you read, especially when it jives with your "feelings". And keep telling everyone they're dumbasses ... dumbass.
You're brilliant.
Your the one citing feelings.
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08-11-2021, 11:26 AM
#146

Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
True. Getting it twice is very rare and an exception. Truth is natural immunity is way better than any vaccine they can mix up. They have been working on this for decades for SARS viruses with no success. Now experimental drugs. The Moderna guy said the mnra mix is not even safe for animals - his words not mine.
It is a personal choice and there is no one right answer as so many arrogant folks seem to want to look down their noses at people over. I know deaths on all sided, hospitalizations and life altering conditions from Covid and vaccine so folks need to shut up on the vax everyone.
Natural immunity is NOT as good with the vaxx DELTA unless you had Delta.
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08-11-2021, 11:34 AM
#147

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I think it's all important. The WH and desantis have a spat, then all-the-sudden, the CDC taints Florida's poor numbers to make them even worse. And then people wonder why there's a big portion of the population that doesn't trust the government
Florida's numbers were in question long before Biden was elected.
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08-11-2021, 11:37 AM
#148

Originally Posted by
Percho
What causes something to mutate?
DNA is not copied correctly. The cause is natural in almost all cases. It happens. It happens in all life. The mutations move quicker the faster that whatever the organism reproduces.
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08-11-2021, 11:55 AM
#149

Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Everybody admitted to the hospital is tested. If they test positive they ARE a COVID patient because they have to be treated as such.
You missed the point I'm not surprised. You do understand that you could have covid and have absolutely no symptoms? I mean with all your medical experiences and expertise right.... an example...so John Doe comes into the hospital and has a heart condition. Chest pains will say... history of angioplasty. They test him for covid he is....asymptotic or could be a false positive.. So your then telling me they decide oh let's treat the covid and not the heart condition. That's exactly what your saying. Correct??? Let me tell you what's going to happen they are going to treat his case as a heart related issue. Now the actual hospital records will show he is a covid positive patient which is mis leading. Now should John pass away due to the heart related issue he is now a...... you guess right a covid death.
The more you post on this and other boards Bill the dumber you sound and less and less are we lead to believe you are even in the medical field.
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08-11-2021, 12:04 PM
#150

Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Every single thing in that post is false.
There are MDs that say otherwise. There is also a reported (in Jerusalem Post) double-blind study performed in Israel stating Ivermectin is very effective. More so than the vaccine ... don't know.
The point is there is a lot of conflicting info out there and I do know for a fact the FDA and Big Pharma will suppress info and when every MSM or Big Tech outlet is censoring conversations about it then I certainly ask why that is. I work with a lot of pretty smart (some that are exceptionally smart) scientists every day that often disagree.
And my "feelings" tell me that once I get vaccinated, I can't get unvaccinated.
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08-11-2021, 12:15 PM
#151

Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Natural immunity is NOT as good with the vaxx DELTA unless you had Delta.
Source? I would imagine they would be pretty similar being that the current vax wasn't made specifically for the Delta variant.
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08-11-2021, 12:19 PM
#152

Originally Posted by
Dawgfan77
You missed the point I'm not surprised. You do understand that you could have covid and have absolutely no symptoms? I mean with all your medical experiences and expertise right.... an example...so John Doe comes into the hospital and has a heart condition. Chest pains will say... history of angioplasty. They test him for covid he is....asymptotic or could be a false positive.. So your then telling me they decide oh let's treat the covid and not the heart condition. That's exactly what your saying. Correct??? Let me tell you what's going to happen they are going to treat his case as a heart related issue. Now the actual hospital records will show he is a covid positive patient which is mis leading. Now should John pass away due to the heart related issue he is now a...... you guess right a covid death.
The more you post on this and other boards Bill the dumber you sound and less and less are we lead to believe you are even in the medical field.
It doesn't MATTER if you have symptoms or not. I was NOT saying you don't treat the heart problem, good lord man don't patronize me. Sheer ignorance is the only way you could have EVER come up with that. They STILL have to be treated with all the precautions as any COVID patient because they ARE a COVID patient in addition to whatever else they are. They have to be in a isolation room or a COVID ward. You don't just walk into one of those if you are treating them, no matter what's wrong with them. You are aware that COVID patients are something like 3 times more likely to have a stroke or a MI, RIGHT? You may be an intelligent person, but your ignorance in these matters astounds me.
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08-11-2021, 12:24 PM
#153

Originally Posted by
dawgday166
There are MDs that say otherwise. There is also a reported (in Jerusalem Post) double-blind study performed in Israel stating Ivermectin is very effective. More so than the vaccine ... don't know.
The point is there is a lot of conflicting info out there and I do know for a fact the FDA and Big Pharma will suppress info and when every MSM or Big Tech outlet is censoring conversations about it then I certainly ask why that is. I work with a lot of pretty smart (some that are exceptionally smart) scientists every day that often disagree.
And my "feelings" tell me that once I get vaccinated, I can't get unvaccinated.
So sheep dip is good for COVID...who knew.******* I hope everybody gets their shots, even the people killing people by spreading this crap.
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08-11-2021, 12:46 PM
#154
this thread needs to get deleted. IT has gotten to political. not the point of this place.
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08-11-2021, 01:01 PM
#155

Originally Posted by
BB30
Source? I would imagine they would be pretty similar being that the current vax wasn't made specifically for the Delta variant.
Google it. Every reputable source that pops up will tell you what I just told you. Two I saw right off the bat were from MIT and the University of Chicago.
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08-11-2021, 01:56 PM
#156

Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Natural immunity is NOT as good with the vaxx DELTA unless you had Delta.
This is not supported by the data yet. Might end up being true, but the data is equivocal at this point.
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08-11-2021, 02:28 PM
#157
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08-11-2021, 02:34 PM
#158
We do need to start wondering how it is going to effect tail gate and other things about game day.
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08-11-2021, 03:54 PM
#159

Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Yes, it is.
Often wrong, never in doubt.
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08-11-2021, 06:01 PM
#160

Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Google it. Every reputable source that pops up will tell you what I just told you. Two I saw right off the bat were from MIT and the University of Chicago.
But some guy with a Patreon account and a MD/PhD in his twitter bio says otherwise.***
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