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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    The 3rd shot is confusing me. It's being reported that the vaccine is highly effective, and the numbers support that. It's also being reported that the vaccine is highly effective against the delta variant. What is the 3rd booster for?
    The booster is for old folks like me (80+..recovered from prostate cancer and a heart attack), or for those whose immune systems are compromised...at least that is what I have gathered from reading/hearing reports from actual doctors. Should be no need for it for all who are in good health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Delete this shit
    it has certainly gone off the rails. I guess that was predictable but it was not the original purpose. There were a lot of us there in Omaha at an MSU sporting event and if this was an issue people would probably want to be made aware. At least one person has chimed in here that they know someone who came down with Covid after their trip. I know of several others. Luckily my group I was with all appear to be healthy though one said he felt hungover for a few days (he was probably actually just hungover for a few days lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaindog View Post
    I could see the shots being given similar to a flu shot on an annual basis.
    It's not an if. It will be an annual vaccination going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC3 View Post
    it has certainly gone off the rails. I guess that was predictable but it was not the original purpose. There were a lot of us there in Omaha at an MSU sporting event and if this was an issue people would probably want to be made aware. At least one person has chimed in here that they know someone who came down with Covid after their trip. I know of several others. Luckily my group I was with all appear to be healthy though one said he felt hungover for a few days (he was probably actually just hungover for a few days lol).
    Getting back to the original topic, I've seen a few posts where people said they were sick but they tested negative for COVID and flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    I just fundamentally disagree with this. I don't want anyone dying a preventable death, even if they "knew the risks" (which I find dubious in a lot of cases)
    What about personal responsibility? If you are at risk, you should get the vaccine to protect yourself. Forgive me if I don't get the vaccine to protect those that should have the vaccine because they are high risk. That's not my responsibility. Lol at comparing condoms to a "vaccine".

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    So you want forced vaccinations? I respectfully disagree with your opinion on it, but hey it's your opinion. You've got just as much a right to is as I have to mine.
    No, I think forcing it would be counterproductive, but we should align incentives, like paying people to take it, and requiring vaccination at mass events, or reaching out personally to unvaccinated people and offer to bring the shots by their house free of charge.

    And obviously 45 needs to cut an ad encouraging people to get it. Most of the "vaccine hesitant" people love him and would go get it if he told them to. "I alone created this vaccine just for you, and it's time we make America great again by making America well again!"
    Last edited by Quaoarsking; 07-09-2021 at 12:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    What about personal responsibility? If you are at risk, you should get the vaccine to protect yourself. Forgive me if I don't get the vaccine to protect those that should have the vaccine because they are high risk. That's not my responsibility. Lol at comparing condoms to a "vaccine".
    It is absolutely your responsibility to look out for others in addition to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Delete this shit
    Best post in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    No, I think forcing it would be counterproductive, but we should align incentives, like paying people to take it, and requiring vaccination at mass events, or reaching out personally to unvaccinated people and offer to bring the shots by their house free of charge.

    And obviously 45 needs to cut an ad encouraging people to get it. Most of the "vaccine hesitant" people love him and would go get it if he told them to. "I alone created this vaccine just for you, and it's time we make America great again by making America well again!"
    Let me be clear that I am not advocating for this but the simplest way to encourage the public to get vaxxed, if that was the goal, would be for the insurance companies to be allowed to refuse coverage for covid related expenses for anyone that chose not to get a vaccination without a valid health exemption.
    my cowbell is louder than yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    I have a friend whose 28 year old daughter died from it.
    But I thought all we had to do was shut down for two weeks, or wear mask or not see people for a year. It never stops. Hey dude, nobody said covid isn't real, but it's a virus, all this shit we've done and it still hasn't stopped it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    But I thought all we had to do was shut down for two weeks, or wear mask or not see people for a year. It never stops. Hey dude, nobody said covid isn't real, but it's a virus, all this shit we've done and it still hasn't stopped it.
    31% Vaccinated in Mississippi isn't "all this shit we've done"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    No, I think forcing it would be counterproductive, but we should align incentives, like paying people to take it, and requiring vaccination at mass events, or reaching out personally to unvaccinated people and offer to bring the shots by their house free of charge.

    And obviously 45 needs to cut an ad encouraging people to get it. Most of the "vaccine hesitant" people love him and would go get it if he told them to. "I alone created this vaccine just for you, and it's time we make America great again by making America well again!"
    Pay people ? Homeless will be lining up weekly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    But I thought all we had to do was shut down for two weeks, or wear mask or not see people for a year. It never stops. Hey dude, nobody said covid isn't real, but it's a virus, all this shit we've done and it still hasn't stopped it.
    Vaccines alone have saved nearly 300,000 American lives. Imagine how many it would be if everyone else did their part.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...ave-saved-over
    Last edited by Quaoarsking; 07-09-2021 at 12:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Vaccines alone have saved nearly 300,000 American lives. Imagine how many it would be to everyone else did their part.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...ave-saved-over
    I've seen too many credible articles showing altered stats. People like Dr Fauci create skeptics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Everybody I know who has gotten covid this summer is vaccinated
    And to give the opposite view, not a single person i know that has contracted the virus was vaccinated. The family that we ended up getting exposed from (so we think) didn't get vaccinated and they ended up in the hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLJWales View Post
    Pay people ? Homeless will be lining up weekly.
    They should have tied the stimulus to getting vaccinated. There'd be a 90% vaccination rate. I didn't get a stimmy and am not vaccinated, but for a $1200 check, I'll take the jab.

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    I got Covid before I got the vaccine. Both sucked. What made up my mind was knowing that getting the vaccine would keep me from getting as sick with Covid if I got it again and the knowledge that it would help me NOT pass Covid on to someone it might greatly harm. At the end of the day we that are Christians are called to care for and love our fellow humans. I could not in good conscience and following the teachings of Christ willfully decide to avoid a vaccine that would help me keep others safe. It was that simple for me.

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    Everyone has the right to choose what they want to do. But with that said it will be increasingly harder to show sympathy for the ones getting very sick and dying that are unvaccinated. I'm comfortable with people taking their own risk, but it will suck if it allows further outbreaks and chances for mutations to new variants that the vaccine does not work against. Then if events start getting cancelled or businesses start changing policies (not to mention more people dying) again there will be a whole lotta bitching.

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    This thread was ok til Liverpool came up with his made up stories and theory's. He is still in his basement getting excited about this new thread and then variants Dude is a propaganda machine and gets off on these Covid threads. Notice how he has been absent til now. Called him out on 247 and he disappeared .

    Did y'all hear we won a Natty???

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC3 View Post
    Let me be clear that I am not advocating for this but the simplest way to encourage the public to get vaxxed, if that was the goal, would be for the insurance companies to be allowed to refuse coverage for covid related expenses for anyone that chose not to get a vaccination without a valid health exemption.
    Can we do this for birth control too?

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