-
Tommy John for Gunnar Hoglund
-
Wonder how far he drops in draft
-
-
Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
They're done.
Yep. With the state of their bullpen, losing Hoglund pretty much sinks whatever slim post-season hopes they had.
-
Junior Member
Really really sucks for the kid. Latest mock draft had him going #8 overall. Turned down 1st round money out of high school. Similar to JT Ginn
-
Originally Posted by
cchjxn
Really really sucks for the kid. Latest mock draft had him going #8 overall. Turned down 1st round money out of high school. Similar to JT Ginn
Whats the High School rule? Round 1 take the money and run.
-
Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
They're done.
Yep. Best hitter, gone. Best pitcher, done. DONE fork in em.
-
Originally Posted by
parabrave
Whats the High School rule? Round 1 take the money and run.
He is going to get near the same amount of money, if I had to take a guess. Just like Ginn. But I don't disagree with your point of a first rounder.
-
Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Yep. Best hitter, gone. Best pitcher, done. DONE fork in em.
They won't even make it out of a regional. They have Nikhazy and they have Broadway. That's it. They're going to run out of depth fast
-
The big question now is Mike Bianco done in Oxford?
-
Senior Member
sucks for us, too
Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
The big question now is Mike Bianco done in Oxford?
Because if Vanderbilt sweeps them, we have almost no chance to win the SEC
-
Originally Posted by
Homedawg
He is going to get near the same amount of money, if I had to take a guess. Just like Ginn. But I don't disagree with your point of a first rounder.
He's going to want over slot money, but I highly doubt he gets what he would have gotten as a top 10 pick. He was probably looking at $5.3 million to $5.5 million as a top 10 pick. If he drops to the mid 20s, those bonus slots drop to $2.5-2.8 million. The teams picking there do not have large slot pools.
-
Not saying this is the cause, however I said on here before that these guys aren't 26 years old, and they pitched limited innings last year. So I'm not a fan of throwing these guys so many innings. Hoglund, Rocker, Nikhazy, Leiter for example. I think Lemonis keeping MacLeod and Bednar in the range of 80-95 pitches will be beneficial. It's a marathon, not a sprint. And for teams with aspirations like Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Arkansas, etc., the season doesn't start until the first of June. You want to enter June healthy and deep. You have to be careful with your starters, and develop bullpen depth.
-
Originally Posted by
somebodyshotmypaw
Not saying this is the cause, however I said on here before that these guys aren't 26 years old, and they pitched limited innings last year. So I'm not a fan of throwing these guys so many innings. Hoglund, Rocker, Nikhazy, Leiter for example. I think Lemonis keeping MacLeod and Bednar in the range of 80-95 pitches will be beneficial. It's a marathon, not a sprint. And for teams with aspirations like Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Arkansas, etc., the season doesn't start until the first of June. You want to enter June healthy and deep. You have to be careful with your starters, and develop bullpen depth.
I think the limited innings last year is the big key. I feel like Lemonis is about to look like the smart guy playing the long game with our pitchers. If that means taking a few Ls, I'm fine with it.
-
Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I think the limited innings last year is the big key. I feel like Lemonis is about to look like the smart guy playing the long game with our pitchers. If that means taking a few Ls, I'm fine with it.
This is what I've been saying for the entire year. We're talking about 18-22 year olds who until late February had not thrown a competitive pitch in almost a full calendar year. That's a heck of a long time and no amt. of bullpens is going to simulate the wear and tear a season will put on a pitchers arm. I think pitching recruits need to look at how Fox and Lemonis have handled our pitchers and then compare that to Corbin and Bianco. I know some on here think we baby our pitchers, but there's a method to what we're doing and pretty sound reasoning behind why we're doing it.
-
Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
This is what I've been saying for the entire year. We're talking about 18-22 year olds who until late February had not thrown a competitive pitch in almost a full calendar year. That's a heck of a long time and no amt. of bullpens is going to simulate the wear and tear a season will put on a pitchers arm. I think pitching recruits need to look at how Fox and Lemonis have handled our pitchers and then compare that to Corbin and Bianco. I know some on here think we baby our pitchers, but there's a method to what we're doing and pretty sound reasoning behind why we're doing it.
It's an analytics driven game now. One of the big changes that has been made with analytics is that managers do not tend to let their starting pitcher go through the order a third time. This has put a major emphasis on relief pitchers. I feel like, going forward, you are going to see some of the better arms actually come out of the pen and do it for multiple innings instead of just specializing for one inning. Lemonis has already done this with the pen this year to keep the guys fresh. Brandon Smith, Landon Sims, Houston Harding, Preston Johnson, and Cameron Tullar have all been multi-inning relievers for the most part this year.
-
Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I think the limited innings last year is the big key. I feel like Lemonis is about to look like the smart guy playing the long game with our pitchers. If that means taking a few Ls, I'm fine with it.
MacLeod pitched 21.0 innings last year. Bednar pitched 15.1 innings last year. And they weren't SEC innings.
-
Well... Nancy has his excuse for failing again.
-
Sucks for Hoglund. Hopefully, he comes back stronger and has a great MLB career.
-
Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
Well... Nancy has his excuse for failing again.
What's the excuse going to be when our short slap hitters are a National Seed?**
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
-
Forum Rules
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.