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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    How many years will it take us to be competitive with UK and UPig?
    Ark came back in one year after a complete dismantle. We are in better shape than them. We'll be back next year even or slightly ahead. We must retain the right coaches (Arnett for one) and recruit MS well. Do that and we'll be fine as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    Ark came back in one year after a complete dismantle. We are in better shape than them. We'll be back next year even or slightly ahead. We must retain the right coaches (Arnett for one) and recruit MS well. Do that and we'll be fine as always.
    Arkansas players seem to actually like their coach and enjoy playing for him. You can clean house all you want but you have to wonder what this looks like to prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonBelle View Post
    Arkansas players seem to actually like their coach and enjoy playing for him. You can clean house all you want but you have to wonder what this looks like to prospects.
    I agree that most of Leach's players famously don't like him. Hasn't mattered that much, but I'll be curious to see if that holds up in a league like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    I agree that most of Leach's players famously don't like him. Hasn't mattered that much, but I'll be curious to see if that holds up in a league like this.
    I see no adjustments on the field so for, I wonder about his recruiting, we are ok on defense right now but I wonder how the future will be with such an offensive HC.

    I'm old school, I think you have to mix it up some with the run/pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    I agree that most of Leach's players famously don't like him. Hasn't mattered that much, but I'll be curious to see if that holds up in a league like this.
    Honestly, I would like our players to enjoy playing here. Enjoy being a part of the program. I just don't know how you build a program at a school with the limitations we have without that. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a lack of discipline but there has to be some middle ground in here somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonBelle View Post
    Honestly, I would like our players to enjoy playing here. Enjoy being a part of the program. I just don't know how you build a program at a school with the limitations we have without that. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a lack of discipline but there has to be some middle ground in here somewhere.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonBelle View Post
    Honestly, I would like our players to enjoy playing here. Enjoy being a part of the program. I just don't know how you build a program at a school with the limitations we have without that. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a lack of discipline but there has to be some middle ground in here somewhere.
    Exactly. And that concept doesn't really matter when you play for a TT or WSU, but it absolutely does when you play for a school in the SEC. When our guys go play in the NFL, it makes us look good for them to plug MSU every chance they get (like a Dak, for example). Not having those type of guys, and that type of player-program nostalgia and support will only hurt us long term...

    Especially in recruiting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Exactly. And that concept doesn't really matter when you play for a TT or WSU, but it absolutely does when you play for a school in the SEC. When our guys go play in the NFL, it makes us look good for them to plug MSU every chance they get (like a Dak, for example). Not having those type of guys, and that type of player-program nostalgia and support will only hurt us long term...

    Especially in recruiting...
    You get through pride. Pride isn't build without a program based on pride and overcoming adversity.

    We can't beat Bama on talent. The only way we can beat them is to be more discipline and play together better. Leach is doing that
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    You get through pride. Pride isn't build without a program based on pride and overcoming adversity.

    We can't beat Bama on talent. The only way we can beat them is to be more discipline and play together better. Leach is doing that
    You think Leach is gonna out discipline Saban? Please. But you know what? Far as I know Saban's players still like him. There are ways and there are ways. We'll see how Leach's ways work here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonBelle View Post
    Honestly, I would like our players to enjoy playing here. Enjoy being a part of the program. I just don't know how you build a program at a school with the limitations we have without that. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a lack of discipline but there has to be some middle ground in here somewhere.
    The most fun any player can ever have is to win, have structure, and get better as a human.

    There's a reason that the bond between soldiers that went to war together is among the closest bonds that humans can experience and it shows that going through hardship, struggle, & adversity together builds the strongest units.

    Once Leach gets this right, our program will be unbelievably fun to play for
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonBelle View Post
    Arkansas players seem to actually like their coach and enjoy playing for him. You can clean house all you want but you have to wonder what this looks like to prospects.
    Playing time.
    You're blind if you can't see improvement.....Freshmens......Strain.....Kick rocks and pound sand......Drag my Yankee ass outta here!......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonBelle View Post
    Arkansas players seem to actually like their coach and enjoy playing for him. You can clean house all you want but you have to wonder what this looks like to prospects.
    Nothing wrong with a little self weeding. I'm positive Coach doesn't mind a player thinking I do not want to go there if they do not have the character of wanting to grow up and be all they can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonBelle View Post
    Arkansas players seem to actually like their coach and enjoy playing for him. You can clean house all you want but you have to wonder what this looks like to prospects.
    If we were 4-0 all the players would love Leach. How you handle adversity is what separates the men from the boys. We will be fine.

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