Baseball scrimmage stats

[The Croom Diaries]

Obviously a small sample size, but something to take a gander at nonetheless. I'll update this post as more scrimmages occur in case you feel so inclined to bookmark it or drop by the site for a viewing. It's just batting averages and ERAs.

http://maroonandwhitenation.com/2014...rimmage-stats/

[MsStateBaseball]

That is great!

[cbrunt29]

Rea is gonna be a beast this year. Little disappointed to see C.T.'s average so low.

[msstate7]

Rea is gonna be a beast this year. Little disappointed to see C.T.'s average so low.

Ct has been disappointing for awhile now. I wonder how much pressure other outfielders can put on ct.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Rea is gonna be a beast this year. Little disappointed to see C.T.'s average so low.

CT should be better this year if he's healthy, but don't try to take anything away from these numbers. You can tell nothing from five scrimmages.

[MsStateBaseball]

Stats are one thing but actually watching them bat is another. Hitting it hard right at folks is not a stat.

[msstate7]

Stats are one thing but actually watching them bat is another. Hitting it hard right at folks is not a stat.

So is ct getting good contact? He popped up and struck out too much for a speed guy last season

[messageboardsuperhero]

So is ct getting good contact? He popped up and struck out too much for a speed guy last season

From what I've heard, CT has changed some things with his swing and is doing a much better job of staying on top of the ball.

It's all about pitch selection and patience for him though.

[shoeless joe]

From what I've heard, CT has changed some things with his swing and is doing a much better job of staying on top of the ball.

This is his key. Getting his hands thru enough to get on top of the ball. He has a tendency to let his back side collapse just enough to prevent him from getting to an avg to above avg fastball unless he cheats and then he's unable to adjust to offspeed.

His ability to put pressure,consistently, on a defense will be a gigantic boost to our offense this year. But he will be on the field because defensively he is a plus plus center fielder.

[msstate7]

This is his key. Getting his hands thru enough to get on top of the ball. He has a tendency to let his back side collapse just enough to prevent him from getting to an avg to above avg fastball unless he cheats and then he's unable to adjust to offspeed.

His ability to put pressure,consistently, on a defense will be a gigantic boost to our offense this year. But he will be on the field because defensively he is a plus plus center fielder.

Isn't robson supposed to be a very good defensive outfielder also?

[engie]

Stats are one thing but actually watching them bat is another. Hitting it hard right at folks is not a stat.

This is what makes Will James' sabermetric stats so valuable. Because BABIP that he likes to use so often actually does account for this.

[shoeless joe]

Isn't robson supposed to be a very good defensive outfielder also?

I have not seen another defensive outfielder that is anywhere near CT. look at it this way...renfroe, an obvious 5 tool guy...only played center when CT was injured. In fact I would go out and say he is the best defensive outfielder I've seen at MSU. his range and the jump he gets off the bat are unmatched by anyone I've personally seen for us.

[Coach34]

Shoeless- are you who I think you is?

[messageboardsuperhero]

CT is a damn good defensive center fielder- he's right up there with Joseph Hunter as one of the best I've personally seen at State.

[shoeless joe]

Shoeless- are you who I think you is?

No idea...

[Coach34]

nope- not you

[smootness]

This is what makes Will James' sabermetric stats so valuable. Because BABIP that he likes to use so often actually does account for this.

This is true to some extent, but it can still only tell you so much. It still doesn't really tell you how hard a guy is hitting the ball because a low BABIP could be due to bad luck or it could be due to hitting the ball weakly, hitting dribblers or pop-ups. Similarly, a high BABIP could be due to good luck or it could be due to ripping the ball all over the place.

I'm a Braves fan, so I'll use the Braves as the example. Everyone said Chris Johnson's BABIP was ridiculously high last year and was due to come crashing down. Well, it did come down a little by the end of the year, as no one can keep it as high as his was, but it was still high mostly because he was hitting a ton of line drives, not just because he was crazy lucky. Then you look at Heyward in his really down year a couple of years ago. His BABIP was crazy low that year but it wasn't really due to bad luck. He was hitting a ton of dribblers to the right side of the infield for easy outs; no amount of luck was going to result in those being hits. His BABIP was also extremely low early last year, but that was due far more to luck because he was ripping the ball hard. You still have to watch the games to really know what's going on.

They're good tools when used correctly, but they still don't give you the whole picture.

[bulldogcountry1]

CT's offense will be a big key to success. We know we can count on Detz, Pirtle, and Rea, but they can't do it all by themselves. CT is a SR who showed a lot of potential as a FR, battled injuries as a SO, and looked pretty awful most of last year. To many misses and too many infield flies. He reminded me of Ichiro minus all the contact. He still managed to hit .281, but really didn't progress as the season went along. Let's hope he's solved some things in the offseason. We need him to hit .325 and have an OBP of .400.

[Offshore Dawg]

Good pitching may trump good hitting. We had the same discussions last spring on football. Time to bring on the competition.

[engie]

In actually seeing these numbers and starting to get a feel for reality -- it's very possible we have the best staff in the country by a comfortable margin. And Paul Young hasn't even thrown yet in the scrimmages according to those stats...