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Originally Posted by
Matt3467
There are things more important than football and this would be one of them. To act like Trump should order his announcement around a football game or he'll lose voters or you'll get mad is petty.
I mean this America. We have shown our priorities. Doing what is morally right and caring about the "right" things is something that we have shown doesn't really matter. Sports and making money definitely outweighs lives. So do you really think the average American gives a damn about a SCOTUS nominee? It's less than 50 days to the election. He'd be smart to not rock the casual voter boat. It's a fair criticism as there is no gain for him announcing Saturday / Sunday instead of first thing Monday. Only losses.
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Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
That's just more words to say what I said he should do lol. Monday is the right time for this type of announcement.
But without the idiocy of maintaining that he should be constrained by how long RBG's family decides to keep her above ground.
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
But without the idiocy of maintaining that he should be constrained by how long RBG's family decides to keep her above ground.
I mean it's a legit reason and showing that modicum of respect helps him. He's only hurting himself with this move.
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Originally Posted by
Matt3467
There are things more important than football and this would be one of them. To act like Trump should order his announcement around a football game or he'll lose voters or you'll get mad is petty.
we have been waiting on those justices since the creation of the court .... and the way the dems dragged the last nominee through the mud and TOOK THEIR TIME about it makes me think this announcement can wait as well .... and I'm a Trump voter at that ..... yeah - I'll be pissed if CBS cuts away
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Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
I mean this America. We have shown our priorities. Doing what is morally right and caring about the "right" things is something that we have shown doesn't really matter. Sports and making money definitely outweighs lives. So do you really think the average American gives a damn about a SCOTUS nominee? It's less than 50 days to the election. He'd be smart to not rock the casual voter boat. It's a fair criticism as there is no gain for him announcing Saturday / Sunday instead of first thing Monday. Only losses.
Woah, Woah, Woah. You can do the morally right thing while also making money. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. Yes there are some bad actors out there but there are also a lot of really solid companies and corporations that do both of those things. They take care of their employees and shocking, I know, but they also make money.
You don't have to have one or the other. Both are very possible.
For example, there are several trucking companies that pay their truck drivers 60+K starting salary with full health benefits/401k etc. with the ability to make 6 figures if you stay on with them for a few years and yet there is a major major driver shortage.
I can point to several other industries/corps that do a great job of taking care of their employees, creating a safe enjoyable work environment etc.
And news flash, those same bad people, bad politicians and bad companies would be doing the same bad things under socialism, communism, capitalism, "democratic socialism" etc. The problem isn't what or how the government operates, it is people. I assure you Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, Russia, China, Norway, South Africa, Brazil, Mexico etc. all have greedy A holes just like America that take advantage of whoever they can.
It isn't just an "America" problem.
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Originally Posted by
BB30
Woah, Woah, Woah. You can do the morally right thing while also making money. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. Yes there are some bad actors out there but there are also a lot of really solid companies and corporations that do both of those things. They take care of their employees and shocking, I know, but they also make money.
You don't have to have one or the other. Both are very possible.
For example, there are several trucking companies that pay their truck drivers 60+K starting salary with full health benefits/401k etc. with the ability to make 6 figures if you stay on with them for a few years and yet there is a major major driver shortage.
I can point to several other industries/corps that do a great job of taking care of their employees, creating a safe enjoyable work environment etc.
And news flash, those same bad people, bad politicians and bad companies would be doing the same bad things under socialism, communism, capitalism, "democratic socialism" etc. The problem isn't what or how the government operates, it is people. I assure you Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, Russia, China, Norway, South Africa, Brazil, Mexico etc. all have greedy A holes just like America that take advantage of whoever they can.
It isn't just an "America" problem.
The America problem was strictly in reference to the sports above lives part. That's not an exclusive American problem sure, but we are the world leader in sports above everything.
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Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
The America problem was strictly in reference to the sports above lives part. That's not an exclusive American problem sure, but we are the world leader in sports above everything.
Are we? I mean, isn't soccer the worlds biggest, most watched sport. Have you lived in multiple other countries, I haven't so I wouldn't know? It seems like there are way way more in the stands fights between opposing fans etc. at soccer matches in other countries than there are in American sports. Just a couple years ago at a match there were several people shot at the game.
Just google Soccer fans stampedes or soccer fan brawls and see the list that pops up. It is way worse than what you see at any of our sporting events.
In the DR, Venezuela, Mexico etc. They have baseball academies that kids that are talented go to at a very young age and just focus specifically on baseball and learning English. I think most every culture/ country outside of a few put sports and athletes on a pedestal.
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Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
The America problem was strictly in reference to the sports above lives part. That's not an exclusive American problem sure, but we are the world leader in sports above everything.
I did not know her and life goes on. A week is plenty of time.
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The announcement shouldn't be a big deal - it's going to be Amy Coney Barret - unless he springs a bit surprise.
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Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
The America problem was strictly in reference to the sports above lives part. That's not an exclusive American problem sure, but we are the world leader in sports above everything.
You've never been out of the country have you? There is a reason why we have a lot of people trying to immigrate here.
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Originally Posted by
BB30
Are we? I mean, isn't soccer the worlds biggest, most watched sport. Have you lived in multiple other countries, I haven't so I wouldn't know? It seems like there are way way more in the stands fights between opposing fans etc. at soccer matches in other countries than there are in American sports. Just a couple years ago at a match there were several people shot at the game.
Just google Soccer fans stampedes or soccer fan brawls and see the list that pops up. It is way worse than what you see at any of our sporting events.
In the DR, Venezuela, Mexico etc. They have baseball academies that kids that are talented go to at a very young age and just focus specifically on baseball and learning English. I think most every culture/ country outside of a few put sports and athletes on a pedestal.
What good company we keep. I mean damn. Anyways. We threw caution to the wind, cut testing funding, have our president having his cronies fudge numbers, still on a torrid case pace and said **** it. Give us sports. Sign liability waivers. Do whatever. **** the ever growing pile of dead bodies. Sports > Lives
All my point was is that the president is dumb for interfering with that. Especially with something his base loves and will be pissed if he interrupts. And he has no gain from doing it Saturday vs. Monday morning.
Any other arguments you guys want to have can be amongst yourselves. You're either looking for some shit to trip me up and feel superior about or making something up when you don't find it. If you wanna argue how America isn't the worst to disprove me saying it's the best then you can take it to my inbox. Just don't be like extendedcab and spew vile racist hate.
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Originally Posted by
RocketDawg
The announcement shouldn't be a big deal - it's going to be Amy Coney Barret - unless he springs a bit surprise.
This. Announce her and hurry up and get her in. It's what we elected him to do. He hasn't disappointed his voters yet so I don't think he will this time either.
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Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
Put me in the boat of angry fans. Dude cannot wait 24 hours for this woman's body to be in the ground. Monday is ripe for this type of announcement to let people mourn a couple days and let America enjoy sports "without politics intervening" then move forward. But nope, gonna have something interrupted. Here's to hoping CBS isn't stupid about what they show.
They've had enough time to mourn her. Time to put her remains in the ground.
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
They've had enough time to mourn her. Time to put her remains in the ground.
I'm surprise they did not just put her on a machine and say she was in hospital for undisclosed illness.
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Originally Posted by
Matt3467
There are things more important than football and this would be one of them. To act like Trump should order his announcement around a football game or he'll lose voters or you'll get mad is petty.
There's also the matter of an audience. Trump probably chose 4 p.m. Eastern as being a time when "real" games are on for the first time this fall, and he knew there would be a much larger audience than there would be on a non-football Saturday afternoon. However, CBS will probably do nothing more than run the ticker since they don't like Trump, and the less exposure they give him, the better, unless they can spin it into something negative.
Which ever way they decide to do it, we'll live through it. Anyway, the news broke last night as to who the nominee will be so there's not really a surprise element any longer. Unless he's thrown that tidbit out there as a diversion and it's somebody else.
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No breakaway - just a crawler. Might be a replay of the announcement at halftime, but I don't think anybody is surprised.
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