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08-25-2020, 06:41 PM
#5341
Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs
The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)...
That's like saying: The HIV info Thread. (Please keep sexual references out please)
It's not that hard actually...Stick to discussing Covid in this thread.. yes politics unfortuntly have a part in the handling of this but we don't need full blown attacks on each side that branches off completely off topic.
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08-25-2020, 08:30 PM
#5342
Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
Well haven't yall had a busy day discussing... voting... in a covid thread. Thanks for no bashing or name calling.. but still discuss it somewhere else please.
My apologies. I started it, so I'll own it. I'll try and refrain moving forward.
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08-25-2020, 08:34 PM
#5343
Originally Posted by
Dawgology
Well, that's what you said. If you meant something different then that's ok. I followed up with actual data regarding homicide rates. I'll follow that up with a couple of other things: before covid arrived on American shores the nation was already seeing an uptick in the national suicide rate. Since Covid-19 there has been a 65% increase in the suicide call centers across the nation. Many of these are closely correlated with unemployment and anxiety. Anecdotally, in my jurisdiction we worked 3 suicides last year...I've 8 so far this year and the year isn't over. The holidays are typically when most of our suicides takes place. Interestlingly, there has also seen a 35% increase in non-covid deaths since March.
This isn't to say that there aren't covid deaths that have gone unreported. It would be foolish to think that there isn't but it can't be assumed that all deaths above the mean...or even half...or even a tenth...are covid related because there is little empirical data from which to derive that theory. That hasn't stopped some cities and states from doing just that, though, and that is disingenuous at best.
Gotcha. I will concede that a higher than normal number of deaths aren't because the person was sick with the virus, but was a byproduct of the toll the virus has taken in other ways. However you want to slice it, mortality rate has increased this year and the only significant change is that we've had a novel virus introduced to society.
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08-25-2020, 09:39 PM
#5344
Originally Posted by
Gutter Cobreh
Gotcha. I will concede that a higher than normal number of deaths aren't because the person was sick with the virus, but was a byproduct of the toll the virus has taken in other ways. However you want to slice it, mortality rate has increased this year and the only significant change is that we've had a novel virus introduced to society.
Nice goal post moving.
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08-26-2020, 03:02 AM
#5345
Originally Posted by
Gutter Cobreh
My apologies. I started it, so I'll own it. I'll try and refrain moving forward.
Thanks.. I really don't want to ban people. the 3 I did ban have been told to stop before. they can come back in a month... or... more.. will see.
I just want this cr@p over too...
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08-26-2020, 03:03 AM
#5346
Originally Posted by
Gutter Cobreh
My apologies. I started it, so I'll own it. I'll try and refrain moving forward.
Thanks.. I really don't want to ban people. the 3 I did ban have been told to stop before. they can come back in a month... or... more.. will see.
I just want this cr@p over too...
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08-26-2020, 08:40 AM
#5347
In all of the mail in voting discussion yesterday, apologies to Scooba and Gutter for my part in that, I didn't see this posted concerning the change in guidance from the CDC concerning testing for asymptomatic people.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ts/ar-BB18ogme
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08-27-2020, 11:16 AM
#5348
We must have some funky stuff going on with processing tests. Just had our lowest thursday since June. I'm thinking maybe our sharp decline was driven by not getting as many tests processed or reported and then the subsequent spike was partly catchup, and that we've been on a gradual decline the whole time as far as actual cases.
Just a shot in the dark, but it seems weird how lumpy the results have been since we hit the peak.
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08-27-2020, 11:27 AM
#5349
Originally Posted by
Johnson85
We must have some funky stuff going on with processing tests. Just had our lowest thursday since June. I'm thinking maybe our sharp decline was driven by not getting as many tests processed or reported and then the subsequent spike was partly catchup, and that we've been on a gradual decline the whole time as far as actual cases.
Just a shot in the dark, but it seems weird how lumpy the results have been since we hit the peak.
We aren't testing as many people.
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08-27-2020, 11:31 AM
#5350
Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
We aren't testing as many people.
Bold statement you are making. Can you provide a link because I find it hard to believe or is this just more of your propaganda
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08-27-2020, 11:34 AM
#5351
Originally Posted by
Johnson85
We must have some funky stuff going on with processing tests. Just had our lowest thursday since June. I'm thinking maybe our sharp decline was driven by not getting as many tests processed or reported and then the subsequent spike was partly catchup, and that we've been on a gradual decline the whole time as far as actual cases.
Just a shot in the dark, but it seems weird how lumpy the results have been since we hit the peak.
Didn't the CDC just say not to get tested just bc you were exposed, but wait for symptoms?
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08-27-2020, 11:40 AM
#5352
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Didn't the CDC just say not to get tested just bc you were exposed, but wait for symptoms?
That's correct they are leaning toward asymptotic may not pass the the virus on. If true then that's a game changer.
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08-27-2020, 11:42 AM
#5353
Mississippi's test reporting is awful, so no idea on how much less if any that's being done. You can look at this chart though, and see things are getting much better...
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08-27-2020, 11:47 AM
#5354
Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
We aren't testing as many people.
That doesn't explain the spike and immediate drop. There would just be a decline. And it would probably show up in hospitalizations and deaths if it were something other than how we're processing or reporting tests. Could just be random fluctuation around the trend, but seems pretty significant to be that.
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08-27-2020, 11:51 AM
#5355
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Mississippi's test reporting is awful, so no idea on how much less if any that's being done. You can look at this chart though, and see things are getting much better...
Can't wait til we get to zero so we can get back to normal ***
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08-27-2020, 11:59 AM
#5356
Here's an article from yesterday on how Collin Co in TX just last week had 4,736 active COVID cases and after an investigation it's been reduced to only 81: https://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...6f2fd31b6.html
"In the previous week, Collin County’s COVID-19 dashboard had begun sporting a disclaimer stating that it had been made aware of inaccuracies in reporting from the DSHS and that the county had no confidence in the data it was receiving."
There have been stories like this all over. How can anyone still believe the numbers that are being reported? Strange also how the numbers in these cases are always on the high side.
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08-27-2020, 12:58 PM
#5357
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Didn't the CDC just say not to get tested just bc you were exposed, but wait for symptoms?
Due to the White House Task Force Guidance and not from the experts inside the CDC...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/u...trump-cdc.html
And the number of tests are down in Texas...
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08...testing-texas/
And in Mississippi
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/mississippi
It's almost like someone is pushing to reduce the number of tests for some reason....
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08-27-2020, 01:21 PM
#5358
Originally Posted by
SheltonChoked
If cases are only down bc of testing, hospitalizations shouldn't be dropping, right?
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08-27-2020, 01:23 PM
#5359
Originally Posted by
SheltonChoked
I wonder how they are pushing down hospitalizations? Does a g-man come to the hospital and deny you entry if you have Covid?
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08-27-2020, 01:24 PM
#5360
Originally Posted by
SheltonChoked
Or maybe...it's not a conspiracy (like you like to say about the tin-foil hat wearing conservative side) and tests are down because there are fewer cases?
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