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Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
They are trying to sell a product in a world of uncertainty.... games be still be cancelled, rescheuled, moved, played without fans, or who knows what else. At worst they have to refund the tickets. better than not selling them to start with...
In other words, this is carrying on with giving people hope we can go back to normal.. because yes it's too far out to make a decision truthfully.
This
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Last edited by TheLostDawg; 05-14-2020 at 12:19 PM.
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Easier to sell them now if we are able to play then sell during a season we (possibly) do terrible because we have a new staff that hasn't been able to work with the players and keep them in shape while the old staff didn't do us any favors in terms of coaching up talent especially with our wr who we really needed it.
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Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
They are trying to sell a product in a world of uncertainty.... games be still be cancelled, rescheuled, moved, played without fans, or who knows what else. At worst they have to refund the tickets. better than not selling them to start with...
In other words, this is carrying on with giving people hope we can go back to normal.. because yes it's too far out to make a decision truthfully.
I disagree, that's called fraud. If you sell something not knowing if you can fulfill the order that's fraudulent. Strong words I know, but our University doesn't get a pass on that. If they are concerned fans can't attend they need to clearly state that in all of their sales collateral (digital marketing included). Clearly explain what happens if you purchase and you can not use it. I'm on the board of directors for a large summer camp (and we are still in limbo as of this week) and that's exactly what we have to do according to our legal counsel.
edited to say: I think they are absolutely confident games will be played and fans will be there and that's why they are pushing ticket sales and telling people to get excited about football at Davis Wade. Time will tell now.
Last edited by gtowndawg; 05-14-2020 at 12:23 PM.
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I am confused and maybe fellow Elitedoggers might be able to clear up muddy waters. The NFL is discussing having digital video work to make a stadium crowd appear in an empty stadium during a possible televised game. I have a problem processing how that preparation by the NFL might relate to college football. I wonder if there is a difference between thousands of people touching something as simple as a hand rail at an NFL stadium compared to a college stadium. Also, older people are more at risk compared to the young. Who actually pays the big bucks in the scheme of things? Also I get confused with students on campus in a limited capacity, just to do distance learning on "Zoom"? If this is a method to say the school is open, is the organization truthful?
Last edited by coachnorm; 05-14-2020 at 12:24 PM.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
"Valar Morghulis."
Awesome!
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Originally Posted by
gtowndawg
I disagree, that's called fraud. If you sell something not knowing if you can fulfill the order that's fraudulent. Strong words I know, but our University doesn't get a pass on that. If they are concerned fans can't attend they need to clearly state that in all of their sales collateral (digital marketing included). Clearly explain what happens if you purchase and you can not use it. I'm on the board of directors for a large summer camp (and we are still in limbo as of this week) and that's exactly what we have to do according to our legal counsel.
edited to say: I think they are absolutely confident games will be played and fans will be there and that's why they are pushing ticket sales and telling people to get excited about football at Davis Wade. Time will tell now.
Fraud is purposefully deceiving people for financial gain. If there is no season, everybody gets their money back. This is not fraud.
You are an idiot. Post less.
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Originally Posted by
BhamDawg
Fraud is purposefully deceiving people for financial gain. If there is no season, everybody gets their money back. This is not fraud.
You are an idiot. Post less.
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Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
we just can't have good positive post anymore
OXFORD, Miss. (WTVA) - Ole Miss campus police ask students to behave at future baseball games following a recent incident.
The university said students were reportedly throwing rocks at Georgia baseball players during last weekend's series.
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Originally Posted by
gtowndawg
I disagree, that's called fraud. If you sell something not knowing if you can fulfill the order that's fraudulent. Strong words I know, but our University doesn't get a pass on that. If they are concerned fans can't attend they need to clearly state that in all of their sales collateral (digital marketing included). Clearly explain what happens if you purchase and you can not use it. I'm on the board of directors for a large summer camp (and we are still in limbo as of this week) and that's exactly what we have to do according to our legal counsel.
edited to say: I think they are absolutely confident games will be played and fans will be there and that's why they are pushing ticket sales and telling people to get excited about football at Davis Wade. Time will tell now.
I respectfully disagree. We all know what we're doing renewing season tickets and if we aren't able to attend, I believe they would do exactly as they have with the baseball season ticket holders (a precedent has been established). However if they took our money and didn't give it back if we don't play, that's another story.
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Originally Posted by
chef dixon
I'm prepared for us to look like absolute dog shit without a true off-season. Trying to get our current roster to grasp the dynamic of completing a forward pass is not an easy task.
I'll say this for certain. There will be no football in the Fall unless or until there is about 6 weeks of supervised conditioning, practice and scrimmage. 3 weeks of workouts, 3 weeks of practice/scrimmages.
Looking at timelines and infection rates, at the very least, the season will not start on time, if it starts at all.
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
we just can't have good positive post anymore
Nope and it's a shame.
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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
I'll say this for certain. There will be no football in the Fall unless or until there is about 6 weeks of supervised conditioning, practice and scrimmage. 3 weeks of workouts, 3 weeks of practice/scrimmages.
Looking at timelines and infection rates, at the very least, the season will not start on time, if it starts at all.
Rumor is the SEC presidents and ADs are voting on May 22nd to see if they will allow players back on campus June 1st. That would be a big step to starting on time.
I don't think "if" it will start is a realistic question, it's happening in the SEC at the rate things are going. But "when" is fair as is "what will the season look like".
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Originally Posted by
coachnorm
I am confused and maybe fellow Elitedoggers might be able to clear up muddy waters. The NFL is discussing having digital video work to make a stadium crowd appear in an empty stadium during a possible televised game. I have a problem processing how that preparation by the NFL might relate to college football. I wonder if there is a difference between thousands of people touching something as simple as a hand rail at an NFL stadium compared to a college stadium. Also, older people are more at risk compared to the young. Who actually pays the big bucks in the scheme of things? Also I get confused with students on campus in a limited capacity, just to do distance learning on "Zoom"? If this is a method to say the school is open, is the organization truthful?
You are a college coach. Tell us..... can you see college football being played if the nfl is not playing or in an empty stadium?
My opinion is that college football will not happen unless MLB goes good this summer and the NFL makes a decision to play. Also schools must the decision to have students on campus. All that has to happen first.
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
Either result is possible, and granted we still don't have perfect information, but us not playing would require us finding out something new about the virus that makes it much more dangerous than it is now, or us just overreacting.
I think the smart bet as of now is that we will play, although there might be disruptions if the summer really slows down the spread and then we get a big spike when it gets cooler. Hopefully we will continue to work though it over the summer and whatever spike comes will be manageable.
Depends on the strain of the hospital systems. If we see 80% of hospital beds or ICU beds filled in a state,
I promise you they won't be allowing football games. Death rate is irrelevant in that calculation. Also, nobody knows the long term impacts yet. We're starting to see some of it pop up in children even. If otherwise healthy children are susceptible to auto-immune issues and are actually having some level (% wise) of post-infection reaction, it'll start a political wildfire that won't be out out by pundits arguing about low death rates. All of those variables are moving targets right now. Depending on how it plays out we may or may not have football. Praying we get to see the season, even if it a crazy forfeit filled mess. Also hope I get to see my kids play ball. But that doesn't mean I think it'll happen. Most people right now are arguing for what they want to happen rather than just letting the situation dictate how we should act. It's defiant and irresponsible, but it's also human nature.
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
we just can't have good positive post anymore
Ha ha, I was in politics for 6 years. Post like that don't phase me, I literally laugh at them.
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Originally Posted by
TheLostDawg
I respectfully disagree. We all know what we're doing renewing season tickets and if we aren't able to attend, I believe they would do exactly as they have with the baseball season ticket holders (a precedent has been established). However if they took our money and didn't give it back if we don't play, that's another story.
A respectful and thought out response. Shows you have some sense, thanks.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Depends on the strain of the hospital systems. If we see 80% of hospital beds or ICU beds filled in a state,
I promise you they won't be allowing football games. Death rate is irrelevant in that calculation. Also, nobody knows the long term impacts yet. We're starting to see some of it pop up in children even. If otherwise healthy children are susceptible to auto-immune issues and are actually having some level (% wise) of post-infection reaction, it'll start a political wildfire that won't be out out by pundits arguing about low death rates. All of those variables are moving targets right now. Depending on how it plays out we may or may not have football. Praying we get to see the season, even if it a crazy forfeit filled mess. Also hope I get to see my kids play ball. But that doesn't mean I think it'll happen. Most people right now are arguing for what they want to happen rather than just letting the situation dictate how we should act. It's defiant and irresponsible, but it's also human nature.
I can't see opening up straining the hospital systems. People expecting the future to be worse simply aren't being logical or don't understand how viruses typically work.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
"Every man dies, not every man lives"
?It?s not dyin I?m talkin about, Woodrow...IT?S LIVIN!?
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Originally Posted by
shoeless joe
?It?s not dyin I?m talkin about, Woodrow...IT?S LIVIN!?
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