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DT and RB. RBs are never taken that high in the draft anymore, so he would probably be the Heisman winner.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
This may be so, but you still have to account for him & allocated bodied to stop him & it take more talented players to stop a great DE than a great DT
On top of that, the supply & demand of DTs far exceeds that of top shelf DEs. You take the DE everyday & twice on Sunday if he's elite.
The only time that I would even consider taking a DT above a DE is if that DT has legit pass rushing ability like Chris Jones. With a Chris Jones type, you're still getting the pass rush that needed to stop today's offenses
Chris jones was not even close to a top 3 pick in the draft and you bring him up. Think about what a DT would have to do to be a top 3 pick and tell me you wouldn't want that guy over a DE like Chase Young that disappeared in the biggest games of the year.
I get a top 3 pick DT and a top 3 pick QB? I am in the mix for a title if the rest are given us a fighting chance. Hell, I might even take a top 3 RB over a QB because those guys aren't even getting drafted in the first round. Imagine what a RB would have to do these days to be a top 3 pick. That guy might when us a title by him freaking self.
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I will go one step farther, in Leech's offense a top three RB might win 3 titles in a freakin row. He would have set records that can't be fathomed on a per run basis to be that high of a pick as a RB.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
So.. you'd really take Derrick Brown over Chase Young? I'll give you another try
I would but that's cause I don't buy the Vernon Gholston 2 hype.
Better question to your point is Suh vs. Clowney. 10 years ago I take Suh, I think I take clowney now with how much the game has moved away from running.
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Originally Posted by
Hot Rock
I will go one step farther, in Leech's offense a top three RB might win 3 titles in a freakin row. He would have set records that can't be fathomed on a per run basis to be that high of a pick as a RB.
This is a good point. Given the context Leach's offense can produce a QB to be above what he should be drafted. Tim Couch was a top 3 QB draft pick. In Leach's offense I believe the impact over replacement would be greater to have a Reggie Bush than someone Leach can make top 3 at QB.
I could buy an argument that a Saquon / Bush type would be phenomenal in Leach's system. And given the context that this is a guy who would only get the ball about 20% of the time on offense in the name of Leach's balanced system, for him to be top 3 would mean he was astronomical for us.
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QB, DT
Although I might choose running back sooner than most on here. If you are a college RB and get chosen in the top 3 picks of the Draft then you have some serious juice. Like a Saquon Barkley
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Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
I would but that's cause I don't buy the Vernon Gholston 2 hype.
Better question to your point is Suh vs. Clowney. 10 years ago I take Suh, I think I take clowney now with how much the game has moved away from running.
The NFL is a passing game & you've got to have defenders that disrupt the passing game.
With the first pick, you take the guy with the greatest ability to do that.
80% of the time, that's going to be a DE, but there is a 20% of DT in the Aaron Donald or Chris Jones mode, that disrupt the passing game quite well
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
The NFL is a passing game & you've got to have defenders that disrupt the passing game.
With the first pick, you take the guy with the greatest ability to do that.
80% of the time, that's going to be a DE, but there is a 20% of DT in the Aaron Donald or Chris Jones mode, that disrupt the passing game quite well
depends what defense you run also tho. A 3-4 DE is not the same as a 4-3 DE. And you left out guys like Fletcher Cox, Jeffrey Simmons, DeForest Buckner, Geno Atkins...total disruptors
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
depends what defense you run also tho. A 3-4 DE is not the same as a 4-3 DE. And you left out guys like Fletcher Cox, Jeffrey Simmons, DeForest Buckner, Geno Atkins...total disruptors
To me, the ones you just mentioned effect the passing game & are thus worth the 1st pick. A guy like Derrick Brown IMO is more of a run stuffer & I don't think that guy is worth using the first pick on
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