-
01-21-2020, 01:53 PM
#221
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Prepare for a debate on your last statement, which I agree with BTW
I mean I guess the last half of the season could be a fluke but he looks like he has them headed in the right direction.
-
01-21-2020, 01:54 PM
#222
Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
Defense may suck this season. Get ready for it.
I look for most of the loud, angry MSU fans that hated Moohead to hate Leach just as bad (except for the improved passing numbers).
We will lose games, but bet the over. Can't have it all. It's a trade-off. Offense will put butts in the seats.
You think the defense may suck because the Navy coach didn't take the job?
I'm missing your point here.
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
-
01-21-2020, 01:55 PM
#223
Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
Defense may suck this season. Get ready for it.
I look for most of the loud, angry MSU fans that hated Moohead to hate Leach just as bad (except for the improved passing numbers).
We will lose games, but bet the over. Can't have it all. It's a trade-off. Offense will put butts in the seats.
I think we need to... you know hire a DC 1st. The defense may suck but I think it's a little early to say.
-
01-21-2020, 01:57 PM
#224
Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
I mean I guess the last half of the season could be a fluke but he looks like he has them headed in the right direction.
Butch Jones took them to two 9 win seasons.
Was he the right guy?
I agree that Pruitt has them going in the right direction, but I see very little chance that he gets the offense figured out at a high enough level to become an SEC East contender.
He's at best the 4th best coach in the East as it's undeniable that Smart, Mullen, & Stoops are better.
I think Tennessee has stabilized some under him, but I haven't watched them yet & thought "the light bulb came on" & that's usually the case when the right coach is in place.
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
-
01-21-2020, 01:57 PM
#225
Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
Defense may suck this season. Get ready for it.
I look for most of the loud, angry MSU fans that hated Moohead to hate Leach just as bad (except for the improved passing numbers).
We will lose games, but bet the over. Can't have it all. It's a trade-off. Offense will put butts in the seats.
I'll have more patience with leach bc of his track record and bc I don't think this is a very good team
-
01-21-2020, 02:00 PM
#226
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Butch Jones took them to two 9 win seasons.
Was he the right guy?
I agree that Pruitt has them going in the right direction, but I see very little chance that he gets the offense figured out at a high enough level to become an SEC East contender.
He's at best the 4th best coach in the East as it's undeniable that Smart, Mullen, & Stoops are better.
I think Tennessee has stabilized some under him, but I haven't watched them yet & thought "the light bulb came on" & that's usually the case when the right coach is in place.
You're fine to feel that way. I'm not trying to sway anybody opinion. My point remains nobody is still laughing about their coaching search but the team is playing well.
-
01-21-2020, 02:00 PM
#227
Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'll have more patience with leach bc of his track record and bc I don't think this is a very good team
I agree. I think we have the right guy now & I think he has a chip on his shoulder.
Bo Bounds was talking this morning about how his "source"(who I am sure is Bartoo) said that Leach was irate when Oregon passed on him in favor of Cristobal. Couldn't believe they didn't hire him
I think Leach has a mighty big chip on his shoulder due to the lack of respect that people have given his career & he's out to prove something.
I don't think this team will be great, but I still think they could win 7-8 games. I think this year's team may remind us of the "We Believe" year team. They started off 7 or 8-0 but weren't very good.
The schedule lines up for us this year. If we eek one out at NC State, we're going to win some games.
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
-
01-21-2020, 02:01 PM
#228
Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
You're fine to feel that way. I'm not trying to sway anybody opinion. My point remains nobody is still laughing about their coaching search but the team is playing well.
For sure. I think some of that perception is aided by how terrible Joe & Chad were. Pruitt came away looking better than he really is.
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
-
01-21-2020, 02:10 PM
#229
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
For sure. I think some of that perception is aided by how terrible Joe & Chad were. Pruitt came away looking better than he really is.
I don't think it's that because TN not supposed to be comparing itself to Arky or MSU. I think it's because they didn't look good his 1st 15-16 games then he won 7 out of his last 8. 6 of those 7 teams were bowl eligible. He did a good job of turning the ship around.
-
01-21-2020, 02:11 PM
#230
The biggest thing that kills defense from what I see is (1) Missed assignments/ confusion and (2) Base lack of talent. The really bad defenses we've had at state just were slow or blew a lot of assignments on the backend.
We need enough recruiters to get enough talent to compete and then coaches who can implement it properly.
-
01-21-2020, 02:12 PM
#231
Just offer Jay Bateman and call it a day.
-
01-21-2020, 02:13 PM
#232
Is Mike Stoops a darkhorse candidate here, IYOK?
I'm not too familiar with how his defenses have actually done in the past. I just know everyone now remembers him for OU's awful defense in 2018. How has he done other than that year though?
#SwingUrSword #HailDamnState
-
01-21-2020, 02:13 PM
#233
Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
I don't think it's that because TN not supposed to be comparing itself to Arky or MSU. I think it's because they didn't look good his 1st 15-16 games then he won 7 out of his last 8. 6 of those 7 teams were bowl eligible. He did a good job of turning the ship around.
This. Pruitt had them playing hard and that comeback bowl win showed how far they had come from a team that earlier in the season would've packed it in after being down like that. He appears to have changed the culture of that program. They gave bama a tough game too.
-
01-21-2020, 02:16 PM
#234
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
This. Pruitt had them playing hard and that comeback bowl win showed how far they had come from a team that earlier in the season would've packed it in after being down like that. He appears to have changed the culture of that program. They gave bama a tough game too.
Kind of like Felipe Franks, I've not watched TN yet under Pruitt and thought they looked like a good football team, even though their record may say otherwise
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
-
01-21-2020, 02:27 PM
#235
Originally Posted by
HailStateSZN19
Is Mike Stoops a darkhorse candidate here, IYOK?
I'm not too familiar with how his defenses have actually done in the past. I just know everyone now remembers him for OU's awful defense in 2018. How has he done other than that year though?
That's the 1st name I've heard that I've been 100% against.
-
01-21-2020, 02:28 PM
#236
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Butch Jones took them to two 9 win seasons.
Was he the right guy?
I agree that Pruitt has them going in the right direction, but I see very little chance that he gets the offense figured out at a high enough level to become an SEC East contender.
He's at best the 4th best coach in the East as it's undeniable that Smart, Mullen, & Stoops are better.
I think Tennessee has stabilized some under him, but I haven't watched them yet & thought "the light bulb came on" & that's usually the case when the right coach is in place.
Well no it isn't. We don't really know enough about Pruitt to make that statement.
And Pruitt doesn't necessarily have to figure out the offense himself. Smart doesn't run any offense. Neither does Orgeron. Saban doesn't really, either.
-
01-21-2020, 02:30 PM
#237
Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
That's the 1st name I've heard that I've been 100% against.
I personally don't know much about his history of defenses. Just that OU fans HATED him as the DC for the last several years seemed like.
What's your opinion on Ruffin McNeill? Is he a candidate? Coached with Leach for a while at TT and at OU right now.
I say just offer Bateman the job and let's roll but that's just my own opinion which don't amount to too much in a coaching search lol.
#SwingUrSword #HailDamnState
-
01-21-2020, 02:30 PM
#238
Originally Posted by
HailStateSZN19
Is Mike Stoops a darkhorse candidate here, IYOK?
I'm not too familiar with how his defenses have actually done in the past. I just know everyone now remembers him for OU's awful defense in 2018. How has he done other than that year though?
He didn’t have a good defense at OK since 2015. The rest were below average to horrid
-
01-21-2020, 04:52 PM
#239
You can sugar coat it all you want, and no I'm not panicking, but I'm not thrilled with the way this is going. WSU's defensive guys have done nothing that have warranted coaching in the SEC. They may be good coaches, but anyone on a staff that finished 11th in the Pac12 in total defense, 286 passing yards, 170 rushing yards, and 31 points a game should not be promoted to the SEC. I don't care if there was a talent gap or if they fired the DC mid-way through the year. SEC ready coaches don't finish in the bottom of weak defensive conference. I wish Leach would've hired a DC and let him assemble the staff. If I'm a DC and I see that half of my defensive staff is already assembled for me with guys from the shittiest defense in the Pac12, I'm saying thanks but no thanks.
-
01-21-2020, 05:05 PM
#240
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
You think the defense may suck because the Navy coach didn't take the job?
I'm missing your point here.
I like the talented young D-Line. The back half of the defense will struggle.
Combined with the fact that air raid will have our Defensive guys right back out there, continuously.
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
-
Forum Rules
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.