DC Search Update?

[HailStateSZN19]

Steve's latest update doesn't sound like good news....says he's hearing conflicting things right now but we should know something today

If Newberry is taking this long to decide, it can't be a good thing. He's at Navy and there's nothing wrong with wanting to stay at a prestigious place like Navy if that's what he wants, but it ain't an SEC DC gig where he'd be getting paid $1 mil+ per year. He's met with Leach in Key West and for 1-2 days in Starkville. If he really wanted it, shouldn't it have been a pretty easy decision after meeting that long and seeing the campus/facilities?

If he doesn't want it, go get Bateman at UNC. He'd be a very solid option.

[ShotgunDawg]

If Newberry is taking this long to decide, it can't be a good thing. He's at Navy and there's nothing wrong with wanting to stay at a prestigious place like Navy if that's what he wants, but it ain't an SEC DC gig where he'd be getting paid $1 mil+ per year. He's met with Leach in Key West and for 1-2 days in Starkville. If he really wanted it, shouldn't it have been a pretty easy decision after meeting that long and seeing the campus/facilities?

If he doesn't want it, go get Bateman at UNC. He'd be a very solid option.

You never know all the circumstances about someone else's life.

I don't think he would've flown to Key West & then come to Starkville for the weekend if he didn't want the job. There just must be some circumstances that require working through

[HailStateSZN19]

Rosebowl just said it will NOT be Newberry. Said in the end, it was a mutual decision.

So...... who's up next?

ETA: That "mutual decision" BS has to be spin. He just turned us down didn't he?

[ShotgunDawg]

Rosebowl just said it will NOT be Newberry. Said in the end, it was a mutual decision.

So...... who's up next?

"mutual decision" meaning we wouldn't let him bring all his assistants & he didn't think the job was good enough to concede that.

Pretty embarrassing, but just like with Napier, it's best that we get someone that WANTS to be at MSU. We'll be better off for it.

Hopefully Leach finds that guy

- I love that Leach brought his entire offensive, but I'm iffy on the defensive guys.

- On the other hand, Leach is obviously very loyal. That likely means that once the staff is set we won't see as much turnover as we've seen with other MSU staffs

[msstate7]

Rosebowl just said it will NOT be Newberry. Said in the end, it was a mutual decision.

So...... who's up next?

ETA: That "mutual decision" BS has to be spin. He just turned us down didn't he?

Just wanting to keep Peterson on the road, right? Fail

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Look like I was wrong & some things went left.

[HancockCountyDog]

Rosebowl just said it will NOT be Newberry. Said in the end, it was a mutual decision.

So...... who's up next?

ETA: That "mutual decision" BS has to be spin. He just turned us down didn't he?

I was told Newberry wanted to bring two assistant coaches with him. We may have agreed to 1 but not 2 and that was the deal breaker. I don't normally have that much inside info, but that is what I was told this morning from someone that should know.

[ShotgunDawg]

Just wanting to keep Peterson on the road, right? Fail

yeah, I whiffed on that one. Thanks for pointing that out

[ShotgunDawg]

Look like I was wrong & some things went left.

What do you think was the deal breaker?

[msstate7]

I was told Newberry wanted to bring two assistant coaches with him. We may have agreed to 1 but not 2 and that was the deal breaker. I don't normally have that much inside info, but that is what I was told this morning from someone that should know.

I thought leach gave the DC autonomy.

[HailStateSZN19]

Look like I was wrong & some things went left.

Was it centered around us filling out defensive positions before we hired him & that wouldn't allow him to bring some of his guys with him?

I swear if we're letting WSU defensive coaches get in the way of hiring a solid DC...... we got an increased salary pool to hire better assistants and we're just bringing over the whole damn WSU staff. I'm fine with the offensive coaches but hell naw on all the WSU defensive coaches. McBath I'm cool with but everyone else on their defensive staff is a no-go from me personally.

[msstate7]

yeah, I whiffed on that one. Thanks for pointing that out

No problem haha

[ShotgunDawg]

I thought leach gave the DC autonomy.

I think he does from a coaching stand point, but Leach is loyal to his coaches.

That's frustrating on one hand, but on the other, it likely means we'll see very little staff turnover, which will be a positive.

[ShotgunDawg]

Was it centered around us filling out defensive positions before we hired him & that wouldn't allow him to bring some of his guys with him?

I swear if we're letting WSU defensive coaches get in the way of hiring a solid DC...... we got an increased salary pool to hire better assistants and we're just bringing over the whole damn WSU staff. I'm fine with the offensive coaches but hell naw on all the WSU defensive coaches. McBath I'm cool with but everyone else on their defensive staff is a no-go from me personally.

With the defensive talent they had WSU, I don't know if we know how good of coaches these guys are.

If Leach thinks they are good, then I'm going to believe him at this point in time because his resume demands that.

I'd much rather have a staff with continuity & coaching ability than just crooters that are mercenaries to the industry

[msstate7]

This has a chance of becoming a disaster. DC is a huge hire for us

[ShotgunDawg]

This has a chance of becoming a disaster. DC is a huge hire for us

Not as long as Leach hires the right guy. I don't think anyone here had heard of Newberry till last week.

He'll find a good one.

[HancockCountyDog]

This has a chance of becoming a disaster. DC is a huge hire for us

With 80-90% of our signing class already signed, there is very little reason to rush. The optics aren't great, but overall we will be fine. If what I'm hearing is accurate I think the decision to not agree to Newberry's "terms" was reasonable. Not something I want to put on the board, but I think we made the right call.

Doesn't make it look any better, but still right call.

[ShotgunDawg]

Newberry went back & forth with Navy before they let him hire his two guys.

Kiffin isn't letting Durkin hire his staff either.

[HailStateSZN19]

With the defensive talent they had WSU, I don't know if we know how good of coaches these guys are.

If Leach thinks they are good, then I'm going to believe him at this point in time because his resume demands that.

I'd much rather have a staff with continuity & coaching ability than just crooters that are mercenaries to the industry

You might be right, but with us upping our salary pool by $1.2 mil, I think it's fair to question why we don't get some defensive guys with deep SEC/Southern roots who can coach who also have some connections/relationships built already with kids in our region. I didn't expect us to start poaching coaches here and there from P5 schools to fill out the staff but I sure didn't think we upped our salary pool to just bring the whole WSU defensive staff with him. I think that's a fair concern.

[ShotgunDawg]

With 80-90% of our signing class already signed, there is very little reason to rush. The optics aren't great,

This

I've learned that coaching hire optics don't matter after the 1st play of their tenure. It's meaningless & more about the fan base's ego