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First off, I don't give two ****s where he goes to school. After the Chris Jones shit last year I don't give a shit about where a kid goes to school. I'm done with that.
If Sean really wants to go to OM more power to him. I don't care.
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Either way, I am sure Sean has a good head on his shoulders and will make the right choice, the family man choice.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
First off, I don't give two ****s where he goes to school. After the Chris Jones shit last year I don't give a shit about where a kid goes to school. I'm done with that.
If Sean really wants to go to OM more power to him. I don't care.
Why are you writing in a thread doing what virtually amounts to sabotaging MSU then? If you don't care -- don't read and respond. Much less, with shit that hurts MSU.
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Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Did I specifically call out him and his parents as part of the plan? Nope, don't see that anywhere in my post. If anything, I could've been more clear in stating that ole miss has had this plan all along, but gotdammit you're a paranoid M'fer. Do you honestly think these type of people will be swayed by what is being written about them on a ****ing message board that only represents a small portion of the entire fanbase? If that's the case, God forbid parents ever finding out about the SecRant.
Yet your statement implicates them in a conspiracy. If you didn't want it to -- you should have been more clear.
Yes. I think they care what is said about them and their son online. Otherwise, why would they be PAYING to read and publicly posting on MSU message boards? And you don't think they read the free ones? You don't think they would take offense to what you said in the manner stated? How many examples do we need to provide EVERY YEAR of parents reading and talking on message boards for people to get the damn hint not to say stuff potentially hurtful to MSU on them?
And then the "it's just a message board" justification for being a dumb ass... KNOWING his parents read message boards and you wouldn't say a damn bit of the bs you've pulled here to their face -- which is practically what you are doing right now.
Riddle me this -- do you think you get a more HONEST view of what an overall fanbase is like on their message boards or on official visits where everyone you come into contact with is kissing your ass?
Last edited by engie; 01-23-2014 at 12:02 PM.
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This will be interesting to be sure but no ill will on the kid either way. I'm sure OM is trying to work "why didn't we offer you before angle" but having the position/area coaches say they've loved him for months and been pushing hard for him to get an offer and it just took time to convince the rest of the staff - but come up here with us and we'll prove them all wrong! That's how I'd play it.
Of course there is still the chance OM doesn't even offer him - keep that in mind.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Yet your statement implicates them in a conspiracy. If you didn't want it to -- you should have been more clear.
Yes. I think they care what is said about them and their son online. Otherwise, why would they be PAYING to read and publicly posting on MSU message boards? And you don't think they read the free ones? You don't think they would take offense to what you said in the manner stated? How many examples do we need to provide EVERY YEAR of parents reading and talking on message boards for people to get the damn hint not to say stuff potentially hurtful to MSU on them?
And then the "it's just a message board" justification for being a dumb ass... KNOWING his parents read message boards and you wouldn't say a damn bit of the bs you've pulled here to their face -- which is practically what you are doing right now.
Some people just want to be internet bad ass.
HOnest question Engie, do you think the coaches should tell Sean and his family that, if he goes on the OM visit that his offer is going to Stallings who will accept it in a heartbeat? I know its kind of tough, but I feel like the coaches have to do something - and we can tell Sean, look you are either with us or you are against us. We ain't waiting another week because you want to see if OM will take you.
I have to admit, the idea of hoping that OM doesn't offer so we can get a kid, just rubs me the wrong way. I trust the coaches will do the right thing.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Yet your statement implicates them in a conspiracy. If you didn't want it to -- you should have been more clear.
Yes. I think they care what is said about them and their son online. Otherwise, why would they be PAYING to read and publicly posting on MSU message boards? And you don't think they read the free ones? You don't think they would take offense to what you said in the manner stated? How many examples do we need to provide EVERY YEAR of parents reading and talking on message boards for people to get the damn hint not to say stuff potentially hurtful to MSU on them?
And then the "it's just a message board" justification for being a dumb ass... KNOWING his parents read message boards and you wouldn't say a damn bit of the bs you've pulled here to their face -- which is practically what you are doing right now.
While I agree it's not particularly smart, from what I've read about them, I seriously doubt the Rawlings family would let random message board comments play a material factor in the decision. If it was a cess pool, maybe they'd be worried about how many Harvey Updyke type persons are out there that would poison their grass if Sean missed a tackle. But I suspect they recognize that every school will have outlier comments that are negative.
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Originally Posted by
Pollodawg
First of all, that wasn't addressed at you, so cool the jets. And secondly, too many of our fans flip the total hell out over this kind of thing. That's all I am saying. Who has OM flipped that wasn't likely headed there anyway. I can seriously think of one person, and that's it. Brassell was never coming here. Kailo was never coming here. So, please don't bring that trash up again.
I just don't see why our fan go in nuclear meltdown mode over a kid visiting Oxford.
I suspect for many it's obvious cheating by Ole Miss and they seem to get away with it. Combine that with us getting on probation for what seems like relatively minor stuff, and you get increased frustration.
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Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Did I specifically call out him and his parents as part of the plan? Nope, don't see that anywhere in my post. If anything, I could've been more clear in stating that ole miss has had this plan all along, but gotdammit you're a paranoid M'fer. Do you honestly think these type of people will be swayed by what is being written about them on a ****ing message board that only represents a small portion of the entire fanbase? If that's the case, God forbid parents ever finding out about the SecRant.
worst crawfish ever.
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Some of the posters in this thread need a ban until NSD. You are only hurting us.
Here's the bottom line. Does Sean want to win big or not and does losing to the school you snubbed sound fun? Looking at both programs now, the next two/threw years in Oxford will be long sad ones with a coach on the hot seat for losing 3 EB's in a row.
This simple fact is the reason he's committed to us in the first place. I'm sure he could have walke on and found another means to pay for school, if he really loved OM that much. Most of these kids love "Winning" ultimately and make their decisions based on that. Why do you think the perceived winners always out recruit those who win less? It's a cycle. Look at our recruiting. Winning fuels recruiting and better recruiting fuels winning. The only anomalies are those who cheat and come out of nowhere to land top classes.
Last edited by RougeDawg; 01-23-2014 at 01:52 PM.
Reason: Damned iPhone
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Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
And Mati Te'o thought the "girl" he was talking to had a ******. This just seems like something that was organized from the beggining. I guess if nothing else, we'd be forcing them to use a scholly to get him instead of him walking on or gray shirting.
Do you see many black helicoptors over your house or what? Some of these conspiracies are down right hilarious.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Yet your statement implicates them in a conspiracy. If you didn't want it to -- you should have been more clear.
Yes. I think they care what is said about them and their son online. Otherwise, why would they be PAYING to read and publicly posting on MSU message boards? And you don't think they read the free ones? You don't think they would take offense to what you said in the manner stated? How many examples do we need to provide EVERY YEAR of parents reading and talking on message boards for people to get the damn hint not to say stuff potentially hurtful to MSU on them?
And then the "it's just a message board" justification for being a dumb ass... KNOWING his parents read message boards and you wouldn't say a damn bit of the bs you've pulled here to their face -- which is practically what you are doing right now.
Riddle me this -- do you think you get a more HONEST view of what an overall fanbase is like on their message boards or on official visits where everyone you come into contact with is kissing your ass?
Holy Shit, get over yourself. My apologies for not being an internet message board lifer like yourself, I'll have to work on my written communication skills so assholes like you don't assume to know what I meant. And no I don't think they can get an honest view of the program from a message board over face-to-face meetings with staff and being on campus for a weekend. There's no way for the family to know who is a real fan of a school and who is just trolling on message boards. IF these people are lawyers and such, there's no way in hell that they're making a decision based on what some fanatic types on a message board.
Riddle me this...Can you please provide one positive outcome from a parent or relative interjecting themselves in a message board?
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Originally Posted by
engie
Why are you writing in a thread doing what virtually amounts to sabotaging MSU then? If you don't care -- don't read and respond. Much less, with shit that hurts MSU.
Oh good god.
Elite Dawgs thy name is Son of Sixpack.
engie, chill dude. This is why some stopped posting over here. Every little thing is picked apart to the point of absurdity.
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Would love to have him at State
plus I genuinely think we develop lineman better. He'd have a great career here and they seem to appreciate we are the ones that showed the most interest early on.
What can I say. Ole Miss is like the fox on Dora. Sitting around the corner waiting to jump out and grab the good players that we put in the work to identify.
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I don't think it's being a defeatist to say that if Rawlings visits Ole Miss, it's probably likely that he flips to them. Dak never visited LSU. The visit would show clear interest; I don't see him risking his spot with State just to visit Ole Miss for the heck of it.
And I'm not bashing him for doing it. I get it. And if we were still able to hang onto him, that would be great. Just saying that based on past history in recruiting, if he takes that visit, we probably shouldn't count on him being a member of the class.
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
While I agree it's not particularly smart, from what I've read about them, I seriously doubt the Rawlings family would let random message board comments play a material factor in the decision. If it was a cess pool, maybe they'd be worried about how many Harvey Updyke type persons are out there that would poison their grass if Sean missed a tackle. But I suspect they recognize that every school will have outlier comments that are negative.
If what was said on a message board bothered them, then they wouldn't let their son go to ole miss. I've read a lot of posters on rebel boards for months poor mouth Rawlings and say he sucks and didn't want him. He was a leftover. People can spin things how they want. We aren't going to lose this kid bc me or you or any other state fan said something bad about the situation. Now matter how it's spun. That's a fact.
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
Some of the posters in this thread need a ban until NSD. You are only hurting us.
Here's the bottom line. Does Sean want to win big or not and does losing to the school you snubbed sound fun? Looking at both programs now, the next two/threw years in Oxford will be long sad ones with a coach on the hot seat for losing 3 EB's in a row.
This simple fact is the reason he's committed to us in the first place. I'm sure he could have walke on and found another means to pay for school, if he really loved OM that much. Most of these kids love "Winning" ultimately and make their decisions based on that. Why do you think the perceived winners always out recruit those who win less? It's a cycle. Look at our recruiting. Winning fuels recruiting and better recruiting fuels winning. The only anomalies are those who cheat and come out of know where to land top classes.
Amen
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
Some of the posters in this thread need a ban until NSD. You are only hurting us.
Here's the bottom line. Does Sean want to win big or not and does losing to the school you snubbed sound fun? Looking at both programs now, the next two/threw years in Oxford will be long sad ones with a coach on the hot seat for losing 3 EB's in a row.
This simple fact is the reason he's committed to us in the first place. I'm sure he could have walke on and found another means to pay for school, if he really loved OM that much. Most of these kids love "Winning" ultimately and make their decisions based on that. Why do you think the perceived winners always out recruit those who win less? It's a cycle. Look at our recruiting. Winning fuels recruiting and better recruiting fuels winning. The only anomalies are those who cheat and come out of nowhere to land top classes.
While I doubt that some of this talk helps us with recruits, I don't get too upset about it. If a recruit gets his panties in a was over what some anonymous poster says, then the recruit probably isn't ready to be in the sec. This is a grown man conference
Now when it turns to attacking them on social media that's different. Then it's the attacker who needs to grow up
Last edited by msstate7; 01-23-2014 at 02:03 PM.
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Its going to be EPIC when they offer Sean , he leaves without committing and signs with us on Feb. 5th..
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
While I doubt that some of this talk helps us with recruits, I don't get too upset about it. If a recruit gets his panties in a was over what some anonymous poster says, then the recruit probably isn't ready to be in the sec. This is a grown man conference
Say you were graduating college with a degree and had 3 job offers. Each company(University) had message boards and one of the message boards talked negatively about you? Would you really have the same impression of your coworkers(fans), should you choose this company?
My point is, saying nothing at all instead of something negative in these situations is always the best option.
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