Rumor Mill Friday: 3 things I am hearing today...

[DeviousDawg]

aGAIN- Franks was completing 78% of his passes when he got hurt for the season this year. If we plan to throw it 45-50 times per game- we will need at least 2 QB's ready to go every Saturday

Agreed. It is a very low risk move for us, if he indeed wants to come, you take him. Well worth the scholly.

This is far from confirmed and still in the early stages, but as of now I would EXPECT this to happen.

[Quaoarsking]

The ultimate perfect world would be to have Franks come in and kick ass, and we get to limit Shrader and Rogers to 4 games each and redshirt both, and then they can square off in 2021 to see who the QB of the future is.

That may not work with injuries and all that, but imagine how great it would be to have 5th year senior Shrader in 2023 with 4 years in the offense, or Rogers in 2024.

[Mimi's Babies]

Honestly, I really want to see how good Shrader can be in this offense before we do anything.

I was impressed with him at times this season.

Marcus Murphy played several other positions in high school.

[DeviousDawg]

On the Defensive Coordinator search:

Hearing even more smoke around Charlie Strong's name. There is no doubt that there is mutual interest between MSU and Strong. Mutual interest is just the first box to check, though.

Strong, Grantham and Shoop will all have to say no for it not to be one of them. I think you throw a $7,500,000 over 4 years at Grantham, with each year's salary increasing by $250,000 a year($1,500,000 in 2020; $1,750,000 in 2021; $2,000,000 in 2022; $2,250,000 in 2023) which incentivizes him to stick around (along with his son being a freshman on the baseball team this year) for at least 4 years before taking a HC job at a lower tier P5 school somewhere. If he declines, I think you throw a similar offer at Strong and try to come to an agreement. If that doesn't work you come back to Shoop and give him $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 over 4 years. If that doesn't work you go back to the drawing board, maybe take a couple shots at some big name sitting P5 DC's, make them say no.

I have heard no matter what this is not a hire that we will go cheap on.

[dawgday166]

On the Defensive Coordinator search:

Hearing even more smoke around Charlie Strong's name. There is no doubt that there is mutual interest between MSU and Strong. Mutual interest is just the first box to check, though.

Strong, Grantham and Shoop will all have to say no for it not to be one of them. I think you throw a $7,500,000 over 4 years at Grantham, with each year's salary increasing by $250,000 a year($1,500,000 in 2020; $1,750,000 in 2021; $2,000,000 in 2022; $2,250,000 in 2023) which incentivizes him to stick around (along with his son being a freshman on the baseball team this year) for at least 4 years before taking a HC job at a lower tier P5 school somewhere. If he declines, I think you throw a similar offer at Strong and try to come to an agreement. If that doesn't work you come back to Shoop and give him $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 over 4 years. If that doesn't work you go back to the drawing board, maybe take a couple shots at some big name sitting P5 DC's, make them say no.

I have heard no matter what this is not a hire that we will go cheap on.

You saying Shoop is an option Leach is considering? Cause Paul on 247 says all assistants were kinda told sayonaro.

[DeviousDawg]

You saying Shoop is an option Leach is considering?

At this point I can't confirm that but I don't see Leach not having a meeting with him if he doesn't get his #1 guy. Shoop is going to be a cheaper option than the other two, which means we may get a position coach or two that we wouldn't have been able to afford with Strong or Grantham as DC. Shoop had the #1 defense in the country at MSU just 1 year ago, he has proved that he can do it here. Shoop is a really smart guy and I see him and Leach hitting it off.

He's a really good DC, but his system does require a certain level of talent to excel, so some years it will look like this year, and some it will look more like last year.

[dawgday166]

At this point I can't confirm that but I don't see Leach not having a meeting with him if he doesn't get his #1 guy.

I'm with you and that could be the case. Paul just said they were all told he was bringing his own guys on board. However, if he misses on Strong ... he may take a whack at Shoop. I'm slightly concerned with Strong tho. Been 10 years since he's called D plays most likely. Probably still involved in D planning tho.

[Coach34]

Shoop, T-Buck, and Hughes will be interviewed to keep their jobs. Leach is a smart guy and realizes he needs to recruit. I will be surprised if we dont keep a couple of these guys

[dawgday166]

You know that for sure?

[Homedawg]

GRANTHAM isn't coming. Please drop this. It's NOT happening....

[Mobile Bay]

Franks can pass. He?s got some serious arm talent and Mullen did wonders for his career. I would prefer to see what Shrader can do, but if for some reason we see Franks as a need I will be on board.

If there were such a thing as trading in CFB then I would send Shrader to Florida and take Franks in trade. Shrader fits Dan Mullen's system. Franks fits Leach's system. I think that would be the best thing for both kids in all honesty.

[Ari Gold]

GRANTHAM isn't coming. Please drop this. It's NOT happening....

This...
the only way TG was coming back here was as HC..

[Ari Gold]

GRANTHAM isn't coming. Please drop this. It's NOT happening....

This...
the only way TG was coming back here was as HC..

[OLJWales]

GRANTHAM isn't coming. Please drop this. It's NOT happening....

Why would you be so certain of that? You don't think he would wanna spend a few years here working for the Pirate and getting to watch his son play baseball? But if you have inside sources saying otherwise, I would like to know.

Maybe being a DC under the air raid is a tough sell. I guess.

[DeviousDawg]

This...
the only way TG was coming back here was as HC..

No doubt, it?s Shoop or a Strong from early reports, but I still believe you have to make Grantham say no. I know there may be some sour grapes but that feeling will ease, and there is definitely some appeal there for Grantham.

I would be more than happy with Shoop if it happened right now. Still thing Strong is gonna get the first swing at making a deal, if it is not already happening/happened. Too much smoke coming from different directions to not be fire.

[DeviousDawg]

Maybe being a DC under the air raid is a tough sell. I guess.

This is definitely going to be a factor, that?s why we have to commit to paying blue blood money for a DC.

[Brahmabull]

Why would you be so certain of that? You don't think he would wanna spend a few years here working for the Pirate and getting to watch his son play baseball? But if you have inside sources saying otherwise, I would like to know.

Maybe being a DC under the air raid is a tough sell. I guess.

How many times does Homedawg have to tell your that Grantham isn?t coming back???? He knows what he is talking about here.

I don?t mean you specifically Wales, but this continues to be brought up and it?s a dead issue.

[HoopsDawg]

GRANTHAM isn't coming. Please drop this. It's NOT happening....

What about Hud?**

[OLJWales]

My main concern at this point is the S&C coach. I wanna know about him, his resume and what he's gonna do regarding having meetings and setting the proper expectations regarding what's gonna be required of them during the off season. To me, this is the most important thing at the moment.

If we can lock that part down, then I'll feel much better and no longer nervous. Based on the meeting, I'm feeling confident Leach is gonna lock that part down.

[dawgday166]

Funny thing is ... some people question me about why I like Shoop so much and I've explained it with stats too many times. I don't get the Grantham love. I like Grantham a lot but on 3rd down and long or late in game, he predictable as hell. And he don't hide what he's fixing to do either. Damn fine DC tho but I think there are many more at his level than there are at Shoop's level.

ETA: Course Grantham runs a 3-4 which a lot of folks love. But I think against spread offenses, 4-2-5 is better. But Shoop mixes those up some here and there too.