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    Damn, so much for upgrading my seats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by missouridawg View Post
    Finally, I really hope we figure out a way to move on from JoMo. I cannot stand the guy.
    And this is why I'm confident he's gone. You can't have a fanbase genuinely loathe the head coach on a personal level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    It certainly isn't looking great right now. Given the schedule next season, I think he could have some success and end up with a winning record. If we have another season like this one ( suspensions, unpreparedness, etc.) I will feel like we have given him a fair shake, and will support making a change.
    Stop and look at what you are typing. This is where you want our program?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    "My wife and I have been fighting this week so I am filing for divorce tomorrow"

    Analogies are dumb and can always go either way you want to argue it.
    How much did winning the EB factor into your position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    No I am a realist.
    Realism has little to do with it. We can keep Joe or we can make a change, either will be reality. Now if you want to stand on principle that somehow our national image will be damaged by this you are welcome to feel that way but I don't care what 'some guys" will or won't do, it only matters what the guys will do that we are interested in. And we should have that pretty well guaged given we likely already vetted a lot of their interest through their agents the week of the Egg Bowl. Sitting P5 coaches would probably not be interested under the circumstances but I don't know that we could get a successful sitting P5 HC under any circumstances. Very few G5 HCs or P5 coordinators are going to turn down an SEC job just because the previous HC only got 2 years rather than 3 even though the program was heading on a downward trajectory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    Because I don't think we are in a position to fire coaches after 2 years that have a winning record (This is a fact).

    It's true that I do not like where the program seems to be headed, but from an outsider's perspective it really doesn't seem like he has done all that bad.Maybe a little underwhelming, but not a complete disaster. It could discourage future coaching candidates by making them believe that the fan base's expectations are too high.

    If he continues to digress I would be in favor of letting him go next season.
    We're not firing a coach at this point without knowing who the next coach will be. We'll already have an agreement in place if the trigger is pulled
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    "My wife and I have been fighting this week so I am filing for divorce tomorrow"

    Analogies are dumb and can always go either way you want to argue it.
    Are you genuinely this dumb?

    Marriage is understood to be for life. Not anything like a Head coach.

    The analogy is you like a girl and go on a couple dates but it's clearly not clicking so you part ways. A perfectly normal scenario

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    So ..... who will Gene Chizik bring in as his OC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    How much did winning the EB factor into your position?
    Literally none. I think we have always put way too much emphasis on the Egg Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex54 View Post
    Are you genuinely this dumb?

    Marriage is understood to be for life. Not anything like a Head coach.

    The analogy is you like a girl and go on a couple dates but it's clearly not clicking so you part ways. A perfectly normal scenario
    Marriage is a contract.

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    Realism is realizing that he hasn't done anything to improve our program to this point and realizing his offense doesn't work and realizing our culture has gone downhill and realizing that the fan base is no longer going to spend money and go to games like they have the last decade. You are not a Realist. You are a traditionalist. Big difference.

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    Any truth to the rumor Joe told Cohen to go pound sand on some of the staff changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We're not firing a coach at this point without knowing who the next coach will be. We'll already have an agreement in place if the trigger is pulled
    If it really is going down, I truly hope you are correct.

    If Hudspeth is the guy im going to be disappointed, and I have a feeling that's who it will end up being this late in the game.

    And for all of the people that use "Joe put us on probation" as one of the reasons for possible dismissal need to take a long look at Hudspeth. Dude hired Barney Farrar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex54 View Post
    And this is why I'm confident he's gone. You can't have a fanbase genuinely loathe the head coach on a personal level.
    That EB press conference was horrible for JM's fan support. I truly liked the guy until that PC but I tolerate him now. To beat a 4-7 bad OM team by 1 point on your home field when you are at full strength for one of the few times during the year primarily due to an idiotic action of an OM player is not the time to puff out your chest and talk down to your fanbase about how great you and your program are acting like you just won an SEC title or something.

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    Difference between a life contract and a work contract.

    Contractors aren't performing their job properly, they get let go.

    But if you wanna put it as a marriage analogy, after the initial honey moon wore off the two of you have been at odds ever since for 2 years. At some point you gotta call it quits before you do something irreversible (have a kid). Some women may turn down a man who was divorced but others see it as one who knows what he wants and has the capacity to be married.


    If us firing a coach for poor performance scares off a future coach, then I don't want him. I want a guy who isn't scared of failing period. It actually helps my coaching search at that point because then I don't have to worry about another JoMo type who is doing everything he can to not get fired except actually being a good coach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    It certainly isn't looking great right now. Given the schedule next season, I think he could have some success and end up with a winning record. If we have another season like this one ( suspensions, unpreparedness, etc.) I will feel like we have given him a fair shake, and will support making a change.
    All I can say is I'm glad you have zero say in the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Any truth to the rumor Joe told Cohen to go pound sand on some of the staff changes?
    Hitler not remembering Napoleon's mistake.....Joe not remembering Croom's mistake.**

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    If it really is going down, I truly hope you are correct.

    If Hudspeth is the guy im going to be disappointed, and I have a feeling that's who it will end up being this late in the game.

    And for all of the people that use "Joe put us on probation" as one of the reasons for possible dismissal need to take a long look at Hudspeth. Dude hired Barney Farrar.
    He didn’t hire Farrar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    If it really is going down, I truly hope you are correct.

    If Hudspeth is the guy im going to be disappointed, and I have a feeling that's who it will end up being this late in the game.

    And for all of the people that use "Joe put us on probation" as one of the reasons for possible dismissal need to take a long look at Hudspeth. Dude hired Barney Farrar.
    IF it was going to be Napier before I don't see any reason it couldn't be Napier now. Not a lot has changed in the situation other than a little over a month has passed. In fact, Napier should appreciate the fact that after sneaking out an EB victory we stuck with JM to give him another chance to prove he should be the guy going forward. In fact, the only coaches that things have really changed for are those that have already accepted other jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    If it really is going down, I truly hope you are correct.

    If Hudspeth is the guy im going to be disappointed, and I have a feeling that's who it will end up being this late in the game.

    And for all of the people that use "Joe put us on probation" as one of the reasons for possible dismissal need to take a long look at Hudspeth. Dude hired Barney Farrar.
    He did not hire Barney Farrar

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