I think we may be making a change...

[dantheman4248]

Hearing murmur too. But it's with the caveat "fool me once, shame on you" so I don't think anyone believes it until it happens.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I'm not getting my hopes up. If Cohen was making calls to rally the booster $ last night and today some anti Joe booster would have leaked it by now. If boosters were trying to make s push against a Joe friendly Cohen then those boosters would have leaked it here to rally the fans for extra pressure. If Keenum has been the problem all along and now hes changing his tune... now that's kinda fits what weve seen: silence from the athletic department as Cohen tried to win over Keenum, and Cohen cleared Rosey to blast Joe.

I dont think anything will happen but it's not impossible

[R2Dawg]

Whoever we hire, I'd have them watch Joe's press conference and tell the new guy if he ever does anything like that just keep walking out the door when it is over. I am still pissed at that egg bowl press conference.

I think Joe now has all Bulldogs dragging in the same direction.

[HoopsDawg]

Keenum wasnt happy about the fight BS making the school look bad also

And Joe doesn't seem to take accountability for anything. I honestly think he feels he did a good job last season. Based on his comments, he was more sorry for setting expectations too high than his own performance preparing the team and running the offense.

The fight, the suspensions, and some other rumors about Nashville may have opened the door. And Cohen already left it a little open both publicly and privately when he stated that he expected the team to be prepared for the bowl game. It was made Clear to Joe that the bowl game was important and we shat the bed.

[RougeDawg]

Hopefully those boosters who backed out after they got EB boners, has their boners turned inside out Monday.

Holding out hope that rationale prevails over emotion.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Question for you Coach: is this the same source that mentioned Chizicks name to you? Or that told you incorrect info?

Either way I'm glad you brought it to the board, I'm just trying to guage how much I'm going to trust your source

[DogsofAnarchy]

I'm not guaranteeing anything- but I'm really getting the vibe a change may be happening. Between Rosey's criticism and a rumor I got passed- I think we may do what needs to be done.

Waiting tells the entire College Football World that we are not serious about Football.

[RiverCityDawg]

Waiting tells the entire College Football World that we are not serious about Football.

Yep, only other possibility is that our leaders are incapable of recognizing a horrible head coach. Either option is bad.

[bobtail bob]

Yawn, wake me after they have drug his yankee ass out of there.....

[HoopsDawg]

Whoever we hire, I'd have them watch Joe's press conference and tell the new guy if he ever does anything like that just keep walking out the door when it is over. I am still pissed at that egg bowl press conference.

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I'm still pissed about that press conference too. That was a real turning point for me. I went from disagreeing with the way he was running our offense and our program to actually not liking him.

[maroonmania]

I hope if we do make a change that we don't lowball on the next staff like we have on this one. Not that this one deserved anymore but you normally get what you pay for.

[hp22]

Do it

You'll be the only P5 college job open? The vacancies have been hired unless someone makes an unexpected retirement or gets an NFL job. If your guy is still there, then why delay and invite outside completion in November?

I think it is better for recruting as well. You enter the recruiting cycle now. The new coach would have a full calendar year to form relationships with 20/21 recruits. It sure beats having to piece together a class at the last minute. As for this year's class, he has 20 or signatures. Instead of a broad evaluation, he has 20 commitments to reaffirm.

[HailStateSZN19]

Please DEAR GOSH let this actually happen this go around.... PLEASE!!! Get his Yankee ass outta here!!

[RougeDawg]

Question for you Coach: is this the same source that mentioned Chizicks name to you? Or that told you incorrect info?

Either way I'm glad you brought it to the board, I'm just trying to guage how much I'm going to trust your source

Chizicks agent did reach out when it was known we were looking. We had a lot more people that most would believe, interested in the job. They see the talent and see the east 2-3 more wins they could improve in year one. Would be a feather in the cap for any coach.

Eta. Can you name a single coach who would not want to be handed a top 25 program that has not finished anywhere close to the top 25, even with one of the best defenses in school history? Given, 2018 was close to top 25, it should have finished top 15 with that defense.

[maroonmania]

And Joe doesn't seem to take accountability for anything. I honestly think he feels he did a good job last season. Based on his comments, he was more sorry for setting expectations too high than his own performance preparing the team and running the offense.

The fight, the suspensions, and some other rumors about Nashville may have opened the door. And Cohen already left it a little open both publicly and privately when he stated that he expected the team to be prepared for the bowl game. It was made Clear to Joe that the bowl game was important and we shat the bed.

Coaches rarely take accountability. Heck, Croom is still pissed he got let go after 5 years of embarrassing offense. You know, if he had just gotten his full 10 years promised....

[HoopsDawg]

I hope if we do make a change that we don't lowball on the next staff like we have on this one. Not that this one deserved anymore but you normally get what you pay for.

100%. Cohen would need to discuss staff and staff budget in the interview process. Go and ahead and discuss who the S&C coach will be, etc. I mean, I know this is obvious, level 1 stuff, but it didn't seem like that was discussed when Cohen hired Joe. Damn it, I don't trust Cohen to get this right.

[Coach34]

Question for you Coach: is this the same source that mentioned Chizicks name to you? Or that told you incorrect info?

Either way I'm glad you brought it to the board, I'm just trying to guage how much I'm going to trust your source

No

[Bobby Ricigliano]

If what I heard about a certain family member is true, things may have had a change of heart, family matters. So....

What?s this all about?

[HailStateSZN19]

C34, what’s your confidence level at right now that this actually happens? This would be some damn good news!

[BeardoMSU]

No

What does your gut tell you about all this, 34? Does the rumor mill feel different this time around, by chacne?