Hey Joe/Cohen: I'm Embarrassed

[ShotgunDawg]

Our current football situation reminds me of the end of the Stans era.

This is embarrassing.

The culture has become rotten based on the actions within the program.

How can you expect fans to support a program where Murphy's Law has seemingly been put in full effect?

CLEAN IT UP!

[TrapGame]

Well, Joe said he was gonna change the culture.

[MetEdDawg]

Some on here were championing this fight early on. Said it showed toughness and that the team was bought in to being tough and this game meaning something.

Now the narrative has changed and the program is trashy and we need to clean it up.

Y'all need to figure out your marching orders so you don't look so disorganized when trying to figure out what you're talking about.

[ShotgunDawg]

Some on here were championing this fight early on. Said it showed toughness and that the team was bought in to being tough and this game meaning something.

Now the narrative has changed and the program is trashy and we need to clean it up.

Y'all need to figure out your marching orders so you don't look so disorganized when trying to figure out what you're talking about.

You apparently didn't read my later post in that thread where I took that back once more information came to light.

[msbulldog]

Damn, damn, just dammit, let's all just get together for the good of our school!

[BogeyGolfer]

Some on here were championing this fight early on. Said it showed toughness and that the team was bought in to being tough and this game meaning something.

Now the narrative has changed and the program is trashy and we need to clean it up.

Y'all need to figure out your marching orders so you don't look so disorganized when trying to figure out what you're talking about.

We have issues and it's easy to see on the field and now it's starting to show off the field....the two go hand in hand....

[MetEdDawg]

You apparently didn't read my later post in that thread where I took that back once more information came to light.

Doesn't matter. You can take it back all you want to. The problem is the initial jump without any knowledge or information at all. That's what this board has become.

A bunch of arm chair QBs making snap judgments on crap they don't know about, then getting all worked up when someone disagrees with them, then taking it personally.

Then you get people trying to win the dick measuring contest by posting the third and fourth hand information they get. Post it as fact, then go about your business. I would think one of the most read MSU pages would have a little more decorum and class when it came to putting stuff out there. We have too many people posting too many different things they can't physically verify or don't witness. So we post shit, someone contradicts it because they know for a fact it didn't happen this way, then we bitch at each other back and forth trying to see who's more wrong.

Board has really declined in this way over the last month and a half.

[PMDawg]

Our current football situation reminds me of the end of the Stans era.

This is embarrassing.

The culture has become rotten based on the actions within the program.

How can you expect fans to support a program where Murphy's Law has seemingly been put in full effect?

CLEAN IT UP!

What about Willie? He's been nothing but a cancer in 2019.

[DownwardDawg]

I’m embarrassed too. I just read the article that was sent to my email. We are an embarrassment of a football program.

[Goldendawg]

I was embarrassed watching the offensive clown show at KY last year. It's hard to stay embarrassed at all the on and off the field situations since then. It is now our culture under Jo. Get used to it.

[DogsofAnarchy]

Our current football situation reminds me of the end of the Stans era.

This is embarrassing.

The culture has become rotten based on the actions within the program.

How can you expect fans to support a program where Murphy's Law has seemingly been put in full effect?

CLEAN IT UP!

I am being patient. Joe Moorhead has something else to fix now. The culture that he has brought with him is not the successful culture established here over the last decade. I am sticking to my story, you will see NO changes in this staff unless the coaches leave voluntarily. You will also not see the critical changes that need to take place to be a better team.


I will also say this, people knew about the incident DAYS before MSU released any information about it. MSU downplayed the incident until it got out to the public so much that they had to say something. I guarantee you that you haven’t heard the last of the repercussions from this.

And now for something new, a lot of you are saying Joe has to win next year or he will be gone. Ive been around MSU for 40 years and next year doesn’t matter, it’s the year after next. If he loses next year and we look like the pile of steaming dog shit that we do now, he will still get another year. You heard it here first.

[IMissJack]

I am paying my Bulldog Club pledge for 2019 this week. If I pledge anything in 2020 it will be significantly less than '19. The administration basically flipped the fanbase the bird three weeks ago so now they can deal with this crapshow.

[Coursesuper]

Typical of things these days.

[ShotgunDawg]

Doesn't matter. You can take it back all you want to. The problem is the initial jump without any knowledge or information at all. That's what this board has become.

A bunch of arm chair QBs making snap judgments on crap they don't know about, then getting all worked up when someone disagrees with them, then taking it personally.

Then you get people trying to win the dick measuring contest by posting the third and fourth hand information they get. Post it as fact, then go about your business. I would think one of the most read MSU pages would have a little more decorum and class when it came to putting stuff out there. We have too many people posting too many different things they can't physically verify or don't witness. So we post shit, someone contradicts it because they know for a fact it didn't happen this way, then we bitch at each other back and forth trying to see who's more wrong.

Board has really declined in this way over the last month and a half.

Then stop reading it. No one is forcing you here

[Liverpooldawg]

Doesn't matter. You can take it back all you want to. The problem is the initial jump without any knowledge or information at all. That's what this board has become.

A bunch of arm chair QBs making snap judgments on crap they don't know about, then getting all worked up when someone disagrees with them, then taking it personally.

Then you get people trying to win the dick measuring contest by posting the third and fourth hand information they get. Post it as fact, then go about your business. I would think one of the most read MSU pages would have a little more decorum and class when it came to putting stuff out there. We have too many people posting too many different things they can't physically verify or don't witness. So we post shit, someone contradicts it because they know for a fact it didn't happen this way, then we bitch at each other back and forth trying to see who's more wrong.

Board has really declined in this way over the last month and a half.

Excellent post.

[MetEdDawg]

Then stop reading it. No one is forcing you here

Correct. But since I get to choose what I do, I'll stay. But it's also common for folks getting called out to tell others to leave if they don't like it. Like I'm stupid or something and don't realize I don't have to read?

You sir are one of, if not the worst offender of everything I stated. Your schtick gets tiring.

[Quaoarsking]

And now for something new, a lot of you are saying Joe has to win next year or he will be gone. Ive been around MSU for 40 years and next year doesn?t matter, it?s the year after next. If he loses next year and we look like the pile of steaming dog shit that we do now, he will still get another year. You heard it here first.

That's just not an attitude that can be supported by recent history. A whole lot of coaches could have easily gotten "another year" in the last 15 years or so but didn't:

Sylvester Croom, Ron Polk, Rick Stansbury, Rick Ray, Vann Stuedemann, Jay Miller, a long list of women's soccer and volleyball coaches, etc.

There's just lots of examples of MSU firing coaches when they still have support and/or could have reasonably expected to get another year.

[AmiteDog]

Correct. But since I get to choose what I do, I'll stay. But it's also common for folks getting called out to tell others to leave if they don't like it. Like I'm stupid or something and don't realize I don't have to read?

You sir are one of, if not the worst offender of everything I stated. Your schtick gets tiring.

But once we get the Home Depot shed over Davis Wade, thousands of fans will flock back to the games and everything will be alright!

[Leroy Jenkins]

I am being patient. Joe Moorhead has something else to fix now. The culture that he has brought with him is not the successful culture established here over the last decade. I am sticking to my story, you will see NO changes in this staff unless the coaches leave voluntarily. You will also not see the critical changes that need to take place to be a better team.

I will also say this, people knew about the incident DAYS before MSU released any information about it. MSU downplayed the incident until it got out to the public so much that they had to say something. I guarantee you that you haven’t heard the last of the repercussions from this.

And now for something new, a lot of you are saying Joe has to win next year or he will be gone. Ive been around MSU for 40 years and next year doesn’t matter, it’s the year after next. If he loses next year and we look like the pile of steaming dog shit that we do now, he will still get another year. You heard it here first.

40 years ago football at MSU wasn't the multi-million dollar investment it is now.... you can't compare expectations now to what they were pre-SEC TV welfare money.

[Rex54]

The MOST embarrassing thing in this latest fiasco would be for Willie to suit up and play in Nashville. And that?s exactly what?s being reported is going to happen.

What a colossal disaster JM and JC have turned this program into.