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    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    The no money excuse was BS before this. If Gelding Cohen uses it after a sub par football season next year, he needs to go too.
    Cohen's job is in no way tied to Moorhead. Not at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    A lot of that needs to go to academic scholarships IMO. Ole Miss offers a ton of kids in state college scholarships with full rides but State doesn't recruit academically like Ole Miss does. Recruiting, academically and athletically, has never been treated like a priority. Be nice to see that change.
    Yes we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Cohen's job is in no way tied to Moorhead. Not at all.
    I don?t care what it?s tied to. After the way JC handled things at the end of this season, he should be on the hot seat. He basically burned some bridges with alumni and some of the media people, by going against what he initially told them. He lost a lot of credibility with both groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Could we possibly expand our athletic offerings? Men's soccer, gymnastics, swimming/diving?
    That would be a great use of it too. It's crazy to me that we don't have a men's soccer team. Swim too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Taking money away from the major sports is what that would do. No thanks. We already have a hard enough time competing in sports people care about.
    We already have facilities for both. It wouldn't be much to add men's teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    A lot of that needs to go to academic scholarships IMO. Ole Miss offers a ton of kids in state college scholarships with full rides but State doesn't recruit academically like Ole Miss does. Recruiting, academically and athletically, has never been treated like a priority. Be nice to see that change.
    State just offered my son $50k, and Ole Miss only offered $34k. In relation Tulane has offered $100K. Waiting to hear from several more in the spring.

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    How about how Adidas us screwing us. That and the licensing company. We need to renew all these deals to a competitive price. Maybe wait until we are making a run in football but our baseball alone should bring us more money from Adidas. They are highway robbing us

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7dawg View Post
    State just offered my son $50k, and Ole Miss only offered $34k. In relation Tulane has offered $100K. Waiting to hear from several more in the spring.
    Family member was offered a full ride presidential scholly to ole miss, but couldn't get a full ride at state. He got a ride at Harvard instead and went there. The fact that a Mississippi kid got a ride to Harvard and couldn't even get a full ride at State is crazy. I just don't see us being very active recruiting top academic talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLostDawg View Post
    How about how Adidas us screwing us. That and the licensing company. We need to renew all these deals to a competitive price. Maybe wait until we are making a run in football but our baseball alone should bring us more money from Adidas. They are highway robbing us
    Isn't that contract running out soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    I don?t care what it?s tied to. After the way JC handled things at the end of this season, he should be on the hot seat. He basically burned some bridges with alumni and some of the media people, by going against what he initially told them. He lost a lot of credibility with both groups.
    The thing is I'm sure the people that put Cohen in charge in the first place are going to protect him.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLostDawg View Post
    How about how Adidas us screwing us. That and the licensing company. We need to renew all these deals to a competitive price. Maybe wait until we are making a run in football but our baseball alone should bring us more money from Adidas. They are highway robbing us
    MLB just signed a licensing deal with Nike FWIW. Since we're a baseball school and all that.

    I don't like several things Adidas has done to MSU. Especially baseball related.

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    Yeah I agree. Strickland's excuse to extend them because of loyalty and let us get screwed twice was upsetting. We should have taken them to the back then. We were at our prime them. Had just recently come off playing for the national championship in baseball and had a good football team. If they don't pay us competitively, I hope we move on. I'd much rather be represented by an American company anyway

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    I’m sure we’ll use the money on things other than what the majority of MSU fans want
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Isn't that contract running out soon?
    https://www.clarionledger.com/story/...didas/7565305/

    Time for Cohen to show what he's made of. I think this is Cohen's biggest test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLostDawg View Post
    Yeah I agree. Strickland's excuse to extend them because of loyalty and let us get screwed twice was upsetting. We should have taken them to the back then. We were at our prime them. Had just recently come off playing for the national championship in baseball and had a good football team. If they don't pay us competitively, I hope we move on. I'd much rather be represented by an American company anyway
    We should have dropped them after the F--- TSUN baseball jerseys. I don't like Ole Miss obviously but I certainly don't condone that kind of language on any jersey even if it is in reference to Ole Miss. The Adidas uniforms for the SEC Tournament in 2014 were even worse than the ones that Russell Athletic made for us during Polk II's era. There was supposed to be a video reveal of those jerseys being shown to the baseball team but it was never used because none of the players liked it and thought it looked awful.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLostDawg View Post
    https://www.clarionledger.com/story/...didas/7565305/

    Time for Cohen to show what he's made of. I think this is Cohen's biggest test.
    If I was named AD of MSU one of the first things I would do would be to cut off Adidas and go back to Nike. I would instantly win over 60% of the fan base with that one move alone.

    Cohen's biggest test is right now with the football program. If he doesn't make marked changes with gameday- it appears as if video is starting to pick up so that's a positive, and if Joe has another disappointing season and has to make a change the test will be whether he will have learned from has past failures and expands his coaching search footprint. He might do it. Might not.
    Last edited by Todd4State; 12-22-2019 at 09:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I’m sure we’ll use the money on things other than what the majority of MSU fans want
    Like anything other than football recruiting, coaches salaries, S&C, and football facilities?**

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    We already have facilities for both. It wouldn't be much to add men's teams.
    It would cost us millions of dollars when you add in coaching salaries and road trips and recruiting budgets. We don't need that for programs no one is going to support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    A lot of that needs to go to academic scholarships IMO. Ole Miss offers a ton of kids in state college scholarships with full rides but State doesn't recruit academically like Ole Miss does. Recruiting, academically and athletically, has never been treated like a priority. Be nice to see that change.
    How do we differ from OM in the way we recruit academically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    We already have facilities for both. It wouldn't be much to add men's teams.
    No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    It would cost us millions of dollars when you add in coaching salaries and road trips and recruiting budgets. We don't need that for programs no one is going to support.
    Yeah. It's not free. But it's not $20 million either and it would provide more scholarships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravedigger View Post
    How do we differ from OM in the way we recruit academically?
    Ole Miss for one had a presence recruiting out of state. I know people who say they never heard of Mississippi State in high school but ole Miss came to their school's and recruiting them to come (academically/college day-or whatever it's called).
    Like someone above said, Harvard offered a full ride to someone but not State. Our system is obviously broken. This is the problem when you continually promote from within. We don't have new ideas or see what other schools are doing day to day.

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