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    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    He's favoring the bigger name schools like Bama, LSU and Aub. Some kids are just like that and there is nothing you can do to change their minds. We would just be wasting time and resources.
    It does seem to be the issue with guys highly rated in their HS career.

    We can get late blooming 5 stars. But guy like Jackson that have been rated high for a long time seem to avoid us like the plague. They think they are too good for Mississippi. It's a shame
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    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    He's favoring the bigger name schools like Bama, LSU and Aub. Some kids are just like that and there is nothing you can do to change their minds. We would just be wasting time and resources.
    If we sign most of out guys next week though, there is no wasting resources to put the full court press on a guy like Jackson
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    MSU struggles with top recruits that get a ton of noise in their SO & JR HS seasons. I think it develops a culture of them thinking that they are too good for us.

    Jeffery Simmons was a 4 star till late
    Chris Jones was a 2 star
    Charles Cross was a low 4 star till late.
    Fletcher Cox was a 4 star

    We can get 5 star caliber players, but they seem to only be the ones that weren't the taste of the town when they were 12

    I agree though, the success we've had on the DL makes it perplexing that we don't get more interest.

    What I don't understand is with MSU's success on the DL, how could he favor Ole Miss in his recruitment over MSU? That literally makes ZERO sense

    If he's asking for money & LSU & others are willing to pay him, then we should as well. You're not going to get in trouble for paying an instate player
    It seems to me like the Mississippi guys typically go where their friends go. Scheme, past succeed at a position group don’t seem to matter as much as they do to adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    It seems to me like the Mississippi guys typically go where their friends go. Scheme, past succeed at a position group don’t seem to matter as much as they do to adults.
    Jackson's is Dylan Lawrence.
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    You mentioned "Rogers on one leg." Is he banged up? If so, did it happen before got to the MS/AL week, in the MS/AL practices, or in this game?

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    Seeing him today, Rogers is bigger than I thought.
    Tight mechanics and a Good, quick release. He is a better passer coming out of HS than anybody weve signed in a long long time.

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    Did the RB from Greenville st joe not make the team, or are private school kids even allowed to play? I know it is a Mississippi association of coaches deal but not sure if private school coaches can be members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    You mentioned "Rogers on one leg." Is he banged up? If so, did it happen before got to the MS/AL week, in the MS/AL practices, or in this game?
    He fumbled a snap & while downing the ball on one knee, was destroyed by half the Bama team. Badly sprained his ankle due to that
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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Seeing him today, Rogers is bigger than I thought.
    Tight mechanics and a Good, quick release. He is a better passer coming out of HS than anybody weve signed in a long long time.
    Probably the best passing QB we've signed since Fant. I think he has a quicker release, is more athletics, & throws with more velocity that Tyler Russell.

    Honestly, he reminds me of a shorter Tommy Stevens, but appears to have more instincts in the pocket. We'll see if Joe & Breiner screw that up or not. I don't have my hopes up.

    He's good though. He's probably a 3 star due to size & lack of physical maturity, but if someone had him ranked a 91 or so 4 star, I don't see how you could argue.

    He could be really really good though, it's just going to depend on where his athleticism & feet go once he gets stronger

    He'll always be a good passer, but in today's college football, you can't have a QB with concrete feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    It does seem to be the issue with guys highly rated in their HS career.

    We can get late blooming 5 stars. But guy like Jackson that have been rated high for a long time seem to avoid us like the plague. They think they are too good for Mississippi. It's a shame
    This one is no late bloomer 5 star, he's been starting in high school 6A since he was in the 8th grade I first saw him in the 9th and it was evident he would be this type of player. Everyone knew about this one. If theses dipshit "recruiting writers didn't have this one rated as high as possible then they need to reevaluate their decision making paradigm. That we aren't in it him is one to think about but sometimes that's the way it is.

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    All I?m gonna say is that we tried and did our due diligence but in the end he has a lot of off field work to do... not just grades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Jackson's is Dylan Lawrence.
    Exactly. So we tried and he still isn’t interested in us. And these players are able to connect to other players much more easily through social media even if they play at another school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    This one is no late bloomer 5 star, he's been starting in high school 6A since he was in the 8th grade I first saw him in the 9th and it was evident he would be this type of player. Everyone knew about this one. If theses dipshit "recruiting writers didn't have this one rated as high as possible then they need to reevaluate their decision making paradigm. That we aren't in it him is one to think about but sometimes that's the way it is.
    Agree. That was my point.

    We rarely are in the game for guys that are highly rated early in their HS careers. One of the big draw backs of recruiting rankings. Puts these guys on the map for the blue bloods very early.

    I think it was the number 1 issues with the 2019 class. All those guys had been pumped for 3 years & it allowed local fan boys to get involved with the recruiting process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    All I?m gonna say is that we tried and did our due diligence but in the end he has a lot of off field work to do... not just grades.
    So we are now taking the moral high ground over LSU, Bama, & Auburn? That's thick

    Hold your breath to see if anyone cares about that
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So we are now taking the moral high ground over LSU, Bama, & Auburn? That's thick

    Hold your breath to see if anyone cares about that
    Think about this he was already committed to LSU and they backed away....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    Think about this he was already committed to LSU and they backed away....
    Awesome.... so we're going to gift OM a 5* DT?

    At MSU, you may have to take some risks. Just the way it is unless you have other comparable options. We don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Awesome.... so we're going to gift OM a 5* DT?

    At MSU, you may have to take some risks. Just the way it is unless you have other comparable options. We don't
    He may very well. Just let this one go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Awesome.... so we're going to gift OM a 5* DT?

    At MSU, you may have to take some risks. Just the way it is unless you have other comparable options. We don't
    He is a mid 4 star by 247 and ESPN. Does somebody have him as a five star?

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Did the RB from Greenville st joe not make the team, or are private school kids even allowed to play? I know it is a Mississippi association of coaches deal but not sure if private school coaches can be members.
    I don't think private school kids are allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    He fumbled a snap & while downing the ball on one knee, was destroyed by half the Bama team. Badly sprained his ankle due to that
    Which resulted in a strange penalty. No first down.

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