Apparently De'Runnya IS playing BBall all season

[Coach34]

I'll take Wilson for a $100...

I'd take Cunningham- he can shoot

[Dawg61]

Cunningham vs Bear has no relevance here. Bear isn't taking any minutes from Tyson. He'd spell Colin, Roq, FSF not the walk-on guard at the end of the bench. Let's not forget Bear is a true freshman. I feel confident Wilson is more than capable of contributing 10 minutes.

[dawgs]

I'm going on people I know that watched him play last year. He's a good Bulldog and I appreciate him wanting to help the basketball team. I just think many of you are expecting a helluva lot more than he can give. The difference in him and a player like Staley is pretty large.

We'll see how it turns out

i don't think anyone expects him to be anything more than a glue/hustle guy that plays D, rebounds, scores some garbage baskets, and just generally uses his athleticism to do all the little things you don't see in the box score. when we've been good at basketball, we'd always have 1-2 of those guys on our teams. if he can provide 10-15 minutes of that kinda play, then he's well worth playing imo.

no one is banking on him being a savior and putting up 15-10 while playing lock down D over 35 minutes a night.

[Five-tool Poster]

based on what? Cunningham can fill up the basket when he isnt being guarded by SEC basketball players with extraordinary length. Hell, he won us a game last year when he made three 3 pointers...

I know that Barbee, who coaches the worst SEC basketball school, didnt even offer him. Think about that

As the coach of the worst sec basketball school he couldn't possibly be a poor evaluator of talent.

[whosyourdawgy]

If he can shoot so good why isn't he shooting now? We need a shooter. He'll I can shoot! Put a 6'3 or 4 guard in my face and things change. That's why he isn't shooting now Granted he probably make as many 3's as FTF right now though if he did shoot.

I want to see IJ get more aggressive

[Dawg61]

If he can shoot so good why isn't he shooting now? We need a shooter. He'll I can shoot! Put a 6'3 or 4 guard in my face and things change. That's why he isn't shooting now Granted he probably make as many 3's as FTF right now though if he did shoot.

I want to see IJ get more aggressive

You and me both brother. I see some mini Chris Paul in his game. CP3 will absolutely take over a game when his team needs it though. Ready ain't ready.

[CadaverDawg]

I'm not thinking Wilson will ever make a big impact, but there is no way he's not a better option than Cunningham. Wilson could have played basketball at a lot of schools if they didn't all realize he was a risk to lose to football. Cunningham was playing pick up in the Sanderson at one time.

Saying Wilson will change our team and be a big impact, is a bit silly...but saying you'd rather have Cunningham is just flat out dumb. Sorry coach. There has been times that I would rather see us play 4 on 5 than to have Cunningham out there. I do admire his hustle and work ethic though.

[Coach34]

Saying Wilson will change our team and be a big impact, is a bit silly...but saying you'd rather have Cunningham is just flat out dumb. Sorry coach. There has been times that I would rather see us play 4 on 5 than to have Cunningham out there. I do admire his hustle and work ethic though.

blah blah blah

Wilson is a 6'5 Center- which is no more useful than Cunningham playing the 3...as I have to continually say around here- let it play out

[CadaverDawg]

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Wilson is a 6'5 Center- which is no more useful than Cunningham playing the 3...as I have to continually say around here- let it play out

Yea, and I'm sure you would pick the 6 foot walk on over the 6'5 athlete in a pick up game. Just silly. Not one of your better pot stirring attempts, but carry on.

[Coach34]

Yea, and I'm sure you would pick the 6 foot walk on over the 6'5 athlete in a pick up game. Just silly. Not one of your better pot stirring attempts, but carry on.

I will certainly take the guy that can shoot it a little over the athlete that cant score outside the paint

[CadaverDawg]

I will certainly take the guy that can shoot it a little over the athlete that cant score outside the paint

Where are you getting this shit that Tyson can shoot? Do you watch the games? I would imagine DeRunnya can shoot just as well..plus we need rebounding and a tall presence just like we need shooting. I have seen Tyson hit the side of the ****ing backboard on a 3 from the corner MULTIPLE times, and air ball several more. There is nothing "good shooting" about Tyson. Hell, if there was, why would he not be playing more? Our best player went 0fer from the field the other night, so I would hope Ray isn't dumb enough to put this sharp shooter walk on on the bench when we can't hit water out of a boat.

[Dawg61]

Phil Turner is 6'3 and was asked to play the 4 for extended lengths of time. It's not like Bear can't move well. He's probably the fastest most athletic 4 on the team right now already. He can run, jump out the gym and he's tough. Nobody is asking him to shoot. We don't expect him to provide great offense. Just run up and down the floor faster than his man, play defense and make a few scrappy rebounds a game. THAT'S IT. 10 minutes. We aren't asking him to be a starter. Not yet. He'd have to shock us all to get that type of consideration. I wouldn't put it past him though. Besides Lewis he was our best receiver this year as a true freshman with only limited time playing football in HS. The guy is an absolute freak athlete.

[Coach34]

Where are you getting this shit that Tyson can shoot? Do you watch the games? I would imagine DeRunnya can shoot just as well..plus we need rebounding and a tall presence just like we need shooting. I have seen Tyson hit the side of the ****ing backboard on a 3 from the corner MULTIPLE times, and air ball several more. There is nothing "good shooting" about Tyson. Hell, if there was, why would he not be playing more? Our best player went 0fer from the field the other night, so I would hope Ray isn't dumb enough to put this sharp shooter walk on on the bench when we can't hit water out of a boat.

Cunningham is not an SEC basketball player- I'm not saying he is. But he has made a few shots here and there.

I am saying I dont think Wilson is an SEC basketball player either. And coming in with no practice or experience is really not going to be much of a help to us.

We shall see

[whosyourdawgy]

Again, have you seen him play? You are describing him like he's gonna be Bubba Wilson out there w 2 left feet and can't shoot a lick. I tried to find footage of him and I found the 2 dunks I have linked so I don't know if he can or can't shoot. And if those are just average dunks, I think most is the players on out team would like to be able to do those average dunks.

[fishwater99]

He got that from me... Nice Flush...

[MSUDawg4Life]

Phil Turner is 6'3 and was asked to play the 4 for extended lengths of time. It's not like Bear can't move well. He's probably the fastest most athletic 4 on the team right now already. He can run, jump out the gym and he's tough. Nobody is asking him to shoot. We don't expect him to provide great offense. Just run up and down the floor faster than his man, play defense and make a few scrappy rebounds a game. THAT'S IT. 10 minutes. We aren't asking him to be a starter. Not yet. He'd have to shock us all to get that type of consideration. I wouldn't put it past him though. Besides Lewis he was our best receiver this year as a true freshman with only limited time playing football in HS. The guy is an absolute freak athlete.

Agreed.

[smootness]

Cunningham is not an SEC basketball player- I'm not saying he is. But he has made a few shots here and there.

I am saying I dont think Wilson is an SEC basketball player either. And coming in with no practice or experience is really not going to be much of a help to us.

We shall see

Just because neither are SEC basketball players (jury still out on Wilson) doesn't make them equal. Wilson is probably 'not SEC level, but fine for the MEAC'; Cunningham is 'not SEC or MEAC or D2 or NAIA'.

Cunningham has made shots before, yes. Somehow, he is able to contribute something to the team when he's in. But I guarantee you that if I took 20 3's in an SEC game, I'd make some. That doesn't mean much. I would stop this argument if I were you, it isn't doing you any favors. Two years ago, I saw him hit the side of the backboard on a floater from the baseling (probably 10 feet) and saw him airball a finger roll.

I don't care what De'Runnya Wilson is as a basketball player. He got a scholarship offer from some D1 schools, so he is miles better than Tyson Cunningham.

[Coach34]

Per Paul Jones:

" Bear played hoops his entire hs career and had one offer (UAB) and that was it. But he had football offers from MSU, Auburn, Tennessee, Louisville, etc."

[CadaverDawg]

Per Paul Jones:

" Bear played hoops his entire hs career and had one offer (UAB) and that was it. But he had football offers from MSU, Auburn, Tennessee, Louisville, etc."

Like I said, with offers like he had in football...basketball coaches weren't looking to waste a scholly on a guy that they'd likely lose to football. Doesn't mean he sucked at bball. And besides, just the fact that MSU and UAB offered bball means he is a better prospect than Cunninghamm. Cunningham is a glorified church league player

[smootness]

Well, a) based on information I've found elsewhere, I'm not sure that's accurate. Barbee did speak to Wilson about playing basketball, but that was in conjunction with a football scholarship, so who knows.

Perhaps he didn't end up with a lot of basketball offers because it became clear his senior year he was going to play football?

Anyway, again, I'm not saying Wilson will be a stud. We don't really know what he would be. I'm just saying he is almost certainly better than Cunningham.